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    Guys,

    Not much time these as work is hectic. Sorry for not replying sooner.

    When the body shifts you will notice the head/spine is in the same spot. He rotates on the center and the weight distribution is 50/50. As the body rotates and the weight slightly drops it uses a different method of "mechanics" to power our wing chun than some other lineages. For example: The YKS method of shifting is a bit different where they turn and weight 100/0. We are also different than the heel shifting lines.

    If you want to read a bit more this article talks about the Pin Sun's Kim Yeung Ma basics:

    http://www.wingchunillustrated.com/2...ulo-wing-chun/

    If you want to see a clear example of the shift. 5 seconds into this clip Master Fung Chun demo's a full shift:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AivljJIyyVM

    An example of an"application". Lets use the first action. This can be used to deflect and slicing that flows into the attack with a strike to the groin typically.

    Someone asked about a retracting looking "lan sao" which is actually a "Lim Sao" (sickle hand). Why? If you notice something about the moves being demo'd both of them are using an "under cycling"! This is the opposite of lets say Wing Chun's Lin Wan Choi which is using the opposite cycling. The skills that fall into the under cycling use the Lim Sao and not Wu Sao which suits the opposite cycle.

    2:35 into this clip Master Fung Chun demo's our drop'd shoulders/sunk elbow/body angle plus shows an over cycling punch. Then about 2:55 he demo's and under cycling action with the Lim Sao.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8f2-...9&feature=plcp


    Gotta run!

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    Jim Roselando

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    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Roselando View Post
    Guys,

    Not much time these as work is hectic. Sorry for not replying sooner.
    Thanks for the efforts Jim, and the excellent clips.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Roselando View Post
    If you notice something about the moves being demo'd both of them are using an "under cycling"! This is the opposite of lets say Wing Chun's Lin Wan Choi which is using the opposite cycling.
    This too is something I have tried to explain to some of the people that have come to see me. I had never thought this was anything to do with Gulao stuffs before as I learnt both methods as a 'yum yeurng' jeurng (yin yang palm) including the 'straight line' methods that most tend to use these days. And yes, this means there are basically 3 types of fist mechanics!! And you're right, they all have their specific uses.

    I guess if some families have removed 'toksau' from their basics this could explain why this upward rotation is more alien, but then I have never understood the reasoning because toksau is referred to all the time on the wooden man, as much as huensau is in SLT. There are, again, reasons for this fme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Roselando View Post
    If you want to see a clear example of the shift. 5 seconds into this clip Master Fung Chun demo's a full shift:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AivljJIyyVM


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8f2-...9&feature=plcp
    Beautiful, precise, awesome. I never get sick of seeing Master Fung in action.
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    "打得好就詠春,打得唔好就dum春"

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    Not much time these as work is hectic. Sorry for not replying sooner.

    When the body shifts you will notice the head/spine is in the same spot. He rotates on the center and the weight distribution is 50/50. As the body rotates and the weight slightly drops it uses a different method of "mechanics" to power our wing chun than some other lineages. For example: The YKS method of shifting is a bit different where they turn and weight 100/0. We are also different than the heel shifting lines.

    If you want to read a bit more this article talks about the Pin Sun's Kim Yeung Ma basics:

    http://www.wingchunillustrated.com/2...ulo-wing-chun/

    If you want to see a clear example of the shift. 5 seconds into this clip Master Fung Chun demo's a full shift:
    Hi Jim, read the article and gee it sounds like what we did. Endless horse training with the left, centre right a big part of that. And the turn and slight sink as well.

    So let me get this right, you are 50/50 all the time and turn of the "K-1" area?


    Thanks Glenn

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