One of the things I was highlighting with a few others is the training aspect of WCK with sparring. I keep coming back to this because my perception is people talk around this and don't do it, and there are all sorts of fear perceptions involved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEgMqIo3MdE
I'm highlighting this video as an example of good relaxed initial sparring with outside skillsets. No these guys aren't tearing it up with skill and prowess. They also aren't swinging for fences and gassing out in 30 seconds. What they are doing is practicing distance control, footwork, facing, angles and hand positions. One is WCK background - the other has typical boxing footwork.
IMO this type if thing is a good regular practice to introduce proper drilling and sparring. This is a great level to introduce your beginner students to. Make that your norm and then people after doing this type of thing for 6 months or so will adjust and take it up to the next level - being comfortable with rounds, contact, footwork, etc.
Age doesn't come into play as someone 15 to 75 could participate in this type of exercise.
People who train in this fashion are more relaxed under the pressures of a full-on fight or self-defense scenario. They can think more clearly, evaluate threats, execute strategy, run, or a hundred other options that aren't there when you are frozen from not being used to the kind of violence a self-defense scenario can bring.
I say start here in your training and build a fighting future for yourself plus students.
To make things clear I was ' nt saying that WC is a junk art , all I was saying is that if wing chun was a junk art the why is people still learning wing chun from David Peterson or Sifu Augustine fong ? People found a way to make wing chun work for them , that ' s all I was saying . Excuse me if I was ' nt clarifying things in my thread . But wing chun is my main art .
The main reason why I wrote this thread was because people say that Ip Man and WSL was only legends not for real . But I do know that there are alot of wing chun sifus out there , that is teaching there art . So if it was only legends then we have to use wing chun in any situation to see if it ' ll work or not . That ' s the reason why I bought up joy and his Sifu Augustine Fong . You said , that any time you hear wing chun masters saying that it takes years to use wing chun in a fight it makes you cringe . Well , I disagree with these sifus too . But I do agree that you need to test it out , and to make the art work for you . Just like you you want to back up wing chun too right ? The same thing I ' m doing in my own way . Not to critiscize your thread .
Now joy has answered my questions on his Sifu Augustine Fong , so now you know that Sifu fong is good , including all those people who has learned and trained under him .
If I did ' nt mention people like Sifu David Peterson or Sifu Austine Fong who are real people and really practicing wing chun and teaching themselves . People will know that wing chun is still being taught yet . And I know that wing chun can work and defeat other systems of martial arts too , depending on the practioner themselves .
[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1169803]joy , the reason why I mentioned your Sifu Austine Fong is because people say that Wing chun and Ip Man , WSL is only legends . It ' s like saying that wing chun can ' t survive in this world because it ' s make believe . I like wing chun too myself , and I do know that Sifu Peterson and Sifu fong is for real too and still teaching and practicing the wing chun art . But thanks for replying to my thread topic on your Sifu Austine fong , now that you ' ve answered my questions in Sifu fong himself , I always thought Sifu Fong was that good including all those people who learned under him like you . Sifu fong I always see him in wing chun demo at one of those kung fu tournaments and exhibitions in San franscisco , and when he does chi sao demo he can hit his opponent couple of times at certain parts of the upper body like the side of the neck , palm strike his opponents face or chest area , get into using other wing chun techniques too . I was just recognizing Sifu fong as a real life wing chun Sifu . Just like all other wing chun practioners in general , not practicing or teaching BS martial art , as people mentioned on this thread concerning wing chun . they just don ' t know how to make it work , because they ' re not open minded enough . ! Oh Yeah ! Ho Kam Ming Sifu too , who also made it happen too , excuse me joy I ' m not that good on chinese terminology too when it comes to respecting kung fu sifus or Sigungs .
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Hi Lance- Thanks for your comments. Wing chun is a great art- it depends on good sifus and good students. It has spread too fast and too unevenly IMO.
On Mother's day-- the legendary Ng Mui was a great mother to a great art.
I like to investigate things that I am curious about...I don't rely on under-informed opinions.And I don't pay much attention to internet forum noise. I don't criticize other folk's choice of style or styles.I have never regretted starting on the wing chun path and testing the way.
Fong Sifu and Ho Sigung are what you are calling real life sifus. And they have taught some very good students.If Ip man had not come to HongKong a great version of a great art would have been lost. Good wishes, joy
My Sifu would say that I put some secrets to our practise out onto the Lei Tai stage at the weekends Martial Arts Show!! But no. I just shared a few key methods of our approach to training Wing Chun...
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It was great t share the limelight with a few of the top players in Chinese Martial Arts in the UK and HK.
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