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    Lets talk speed and combos

    Everyone likes to think they are fast
    And we see quite a bit of clips and demos of speed on things that DON'T hit back, but what about speed and combos VS someone actually fighting back?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URyaq...feature=relmfu
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    gotta love sugars combination of fast hands and quick footwork
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    Greetings,

    Looking at the clip, most of the speed boxers were also offensive fighters. Their opponents were not always answering back punch for punch. What is important to note is their positioning, sensitivity, timing, and ability to adapt fluidly to gates/targets that open and close. There were many instances where the attacker was vulnerable, just like some poor guy in some mcdojo who is putting a hurtin' on the guy in a bow stance holding his punching arm straight out, locked. The difference being the boxer's ability to adjust and deal with what may come his way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Everyone likes to think they are fast
    And we see quite a bit of clips and demos of speed on things that DON'T hit back, but what about speed and combos VS someone actually fighting back?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URyaq...feature=relmfu
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings,

    Looking at the clip, most of the speed boxers were also offensive fighters. Their opponents were not always answering back punch for punch. What is important to note is their positioning, sensitivity, timing, and ability to adapt fluidly to gates/targets that open and close. There were many instances where the attacker was vulnerable, just like some poor guy in some mcdojo who is putting a hurtin' on the guy in a bow stance holding his punching arm straight out, locked. The difference being the boxer's ability to adjust and deal with what may come his way.

    mickey
    Most of those opponents were top 5 ranked and most were championship fights.
    They weren't hitting back because they couldn't, not because they weren't "allowed" to.
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    Gonna have to watch that one for later.
    Other than Sugar Ray Leonard & Sugar Ray Robinson, you may want to check out Meldrick Taylor.
    Before the Chavez fight, that guy was FAST.
    Also check out vintage Roy Jones if you haven't already.

    For foot speed and/or defense, see Willie Pep, Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker, and Benny Leonard. All 3 of those guys are virtuosos.
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pork Chop View Post
    Gonna have to watch that one for later.
    Other than Sugar Ray Leonard & Sugar Ray Robinson, you may want to check out Meldrick Taylor.
    Before the Chavez fight, that guy was FAST.
    Also check out vintage Roy Jones if you haven't already.

    For foot speed and/or defense, see Willie Pep, Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker, and Benny Leonard. All 3 of those guys are virtuosos.
    It would have been nice to see RJJ fight someone that REALLY pushed him in his prime.
    Such is life though.
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    Not just combos but speed, precision and hitting from every angle:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPKdA4yAti4
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    Sugar Ray is my second favourite boxer of all time.

    OF ALL TIME!!!

    Ima let you finish....


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Sugar Ray is my second favourite boxer of all time.

    OF ALL TIME!!!

    Ima let you finish....


    *throws mic down*
    Thanks Kanye
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Not just combos but speed, precision and hitting from every angle:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPKdA4yAti4
    Did I mention I met him last weekend?
    Had to drive him to Saekson's house at one point.
    Might be d0rky, but the idea of cruising around with Samart riding shotgun was one of the high points of my life. LOL
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
    -Jack Dempsey ch1 pg1 Championship Fighting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pork Chop View Post
    Did I mention I met him last weekend?
    Had to drive him to Saekson's house at one point.
    Might be d0rky, but the idea of cruising around with Samart riding shotgun was one of the high points of my life. LOL
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    J/K, cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brule View Post
    Girlie fanboy

    J/K, cool.
    hehe thanx

    We tried to get him to go to this huge Laos new year party at the Laotian temple.
    He couldn't go for fear of being mobbed by the thousands of people there.
    Even in Laos he's very well known.
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
    -Jack Dempsey ch1 pg1 Championship Fighting

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    Greetings,

    sanjuro ronin, regardless of rankings there was an element that kept some of those guys from hitting back and it was FEAR. Those champions hit fast and HARD. At some point you will have to suck it up and deal or falter.

    mickey

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings,

    sanjuro ronin, regardless of rankings there was an element that kept some of those guys from hitting back and it was FEAR. Those champions hit fast and HARD. At some point you will have to suck it up and deal or falter.

    mickey
    Ah, I understand what you mean and YES, what all those guys had in common was not only that they hit fast but HARD.
    Something that the "slappty-slap" crew don't get.
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