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    Man Dies From Punch to Face

    http://www.wnbc.com/news/17387598/detail.html

    I'd suggest torture for the perp, but maybe just beheading him and putting his kopf on a post to warn others would be better....
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    Beaten to death - one punch kill

    Article about the Zimmerman thing, but contains some interesting statistics about the lethality of fist fighting, and why.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...teenager_.html
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    people are fragile

    if we strike the vital point with a punch or a kick

    knock out

    or death

    may occur.


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    That is interesting...

    We've discussed this case on the Trayvon Martin thread, and I was going to merge but then decided this has different discussion potential as it stands. Those are good stats so I'm c&ping them into the forum archive here.

    Punched to Death
    How easy is it to kill a man with your bare hands?

    By Brian Palmer|Posted Friday, May 18, 2012, at 7:02 PM ET

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    It happens more than twice a day, on average. Fists and feet were responsible for 745 murders in 2010, or 5.7 percent of all murders that year, according to FBI statistics. (The data on this have been remarkably stable in recent years. In the five preceding years, the percentage of murders perpetrated by fists or feet fluctuated between 5.6 and 6.1.) It doesn’t even take an experienced brawler to punch someone to death: An 11-year-old California girl appears to have killed a classmate with her bare hands in a February fistfight.

    There are no official statistics on this, but most fistfight deaths are the result of massive internal bleeding from repeated blows, often after the victim has been knocked down or unconscious. Still, under certain circumstances it’s possible to kill a man with a single punch. In July, for example, a Florida man was arrested for killing someone with a haymaker in a Las Vegas casino.
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    Boxers describing a classic knockout punch talk about snapping their opponent’s head back or turning it around. That’s because punching someone unconscious—or killing them—usually results from the rotational forces placed on the head, not from the direct impact of the fist itself. A hook to the side of the head, or an uppercut to the chin, can send the head spinning, which breaks blood vessels inside the skull. In these cases, victims may die of internal bleeding hours after the fight, with friends and emergency medical personnel never realizing what was going on.

    Sometimes the rotational forces on the head leave the blood vessels intact but stress the neurons to the point that they cease to function normally, causing a loss of consciousness. The victim then smashes his head on the concrete, which causes bleeding or other catastrophic brain injury. This scenario played out in 2003, when a drunken bar fly in San Diego killed a former Marine with a sucker punch. (Zimmerman’s attorneys will likely emphasize the danger of pavement in a fistfight, as police photos show injuries to the back of his head.)

    Biomechanics research shows why these one-punch deaths are rare events. Automotive and athletic safety experts use a measure called the Head Injury Criterion to determine the lethality of knocks to the head. A score of 1,000 indicates that the impact would cause a life-threatening injury to one in six people. Olympic boxers can only punch up to around 164 on the scale, according to a study from 2005. The element of surprise is a major factor. A person who knows he’s going to be punched braces himself and tenses his neck muscles, preventing rapid rotation. (That’s why boxers work hard to develop their neck strength.)

    Body blows can also kill under some circumstances. A punch aimed directly at the heart, delivered at a particular moment in the heart’s beating sequence, can cause it to go into a deadly arrhythmia. The condition, known as commotio cordis, usually occurs during sporting events but has also been seen in fistfights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    We've discussed this case on the Trayvon Martin thread, and I was going to merge but then decided this has different discussion potential as it stands. Those are good stats so I'm c&ping them into the forum archive here.
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    I also think you'll find many instances where the human body takes a beating without suffering ill effects. The human body is both delicate and resilient. I guess it depends on the location of the strike and how prepared the recipient is for the punch. Interesting stuff.

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    There is one thing we need to remember and that was that the "one punch, one kill" thing was referring to "coup de grace" on one side and to instill the proper notion of "every strike should end the fight" principle that SOME MA systems had.
    The fact that those MA that were good enough to be "one shot knockout masters" can be counted on "one hand", much like in boxing for example, shows that TRUE "one shot, one kill" fighters were and still are, very rare.
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    as in most Martial Arts, the concept of "One shot, one kill," is an ideal-something to strive for, like achieving perfection, not actually to be reached.
    I tell my students,"We strive for perfection, because on the way to perfection, excellence will be reached."
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    punched once

    U.S. airman is killed by MMA fighter in brawl outside Florida bar, officials say
    Dayvon Larry, 31, who died after being punched once, did not appear to have much to do with an ongoing altercation when he was hit, police said.

    April 11, 2023, 5:34 PM PDT
    By Dennis Romero

    An amateur mixed martial arts fighter is accused in the death of a U.S. airman who was fatally struck outside a Florida bar.

    Ross Johnson, 23, of Carterville, Illinois, has been charged with manslaughter in the death of Air Force Airman 1st Class Dayvon Larry, 31, of Malone, Florida, authorities said Tuesday.

    It was not immediately clear whether Johnson had legal representation, and the area public defender did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


    The Coyote Ugly Saloon in Panama City Beach, Fla.Google Maps

    Fights broke out Sunday both outside and inside the Coyote Ugly Saloon. Larry did not participate but may have known someone involved in an argument that preceded the fights, according to an incident report from the Panama City Beach Police Department.

    Larry was punched once in a parking lot near the bar, police said.

    Security personnel broke up the fight outside, found Larry and called first responders, who administered CPR before they took him to a hospital, where he died, police said.

    Johnson was identified as a suspect based on security video, police said. Investigators said he gave conflicting narratives about what led up to his altercation with Larry but ultimately confessed, police said in a statement.


    Coyote Ugly did not respond to a request for comment.

    Larry was from Malone, a small town 70 miles north of Panama City Beach, police said.

    A spokesperson for Tyndall Air Force Base, Florida, confirmed an airman died Monday but did not identify the person.

    Police identified Johnson as an MMA fighter.



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