How do you know if some one has good Wing Chun?
What should they possess for it to be good WC?
is it forms, Chi Sau, the three terrors of WC; Fok, Tan and Bong?
PLEASE SHARE IN YOUR OPINION HOW TO TELL IF SOMEONE HAS GOOD WING CHUN?
Wing Chun Fighter
How do you know if some one has good Wing Chun?
What should they possess for it to be good WC?
is it forms, Chi Sau, the three terrors of WC; Fok, Tan and Bong?
PLEASE SHARE IN YOUR OPINION HOW TO TELL IF SOMEONE HAS GOOD WING CHUN?
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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When they fight, they win AND it looks like the Wing Chun THEY do in training.Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
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Very good Sanjuro_ronin question though does all training look the same in actual fighting...
does a boxer look the same sparring as he does when he shadow box?
Does a Karate guy look the same when he free spars oppose to drills,katas and point sparring?
Just asking a question that is all...
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Do boxers look the same when they fight and train? pretty much yep.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
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I’m sorry, but that’s simply not true on both counts.
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Sparring doesn't look like fighting?
“An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory.” – Friedrich Engels
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Well, there are a lot of boxing exercises designed to develop attributes for fighting. These exercises are quite different than fighting.
Jump Rope
Speed Bag - 3 kinds
Heavy Bag
Ropes - duck under
What does look the same as fighting?
Good Pad Work
Shadow Boxing
Sparring
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Good Wing Chun slaps you right in the face LOL
Good Hong Kong/Ip Man wing chun is simple direct and efficient. It must be completely logical and everything is there for a reason. Either fighting technique, training method or body conditioning drill.
Experienced teachers will put their layer ontop. This is very important as nobody knows everything and the older you get the wiser you should be.
Paul
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Well, obviously rope skipping and speed bag work will NOT look like fighting, though the HB work SHOULD.
When a boxer spars and even shadow box you will see him move and hit just like he does in a real fight.
Certainly a real fight will not be so "fluid and smooth" because they other guy is hitting back, but everything that is done in sparring and shadow boxing will come out in a fight ( ring or outside).
A trained boxer caught in video fighting someone will make you say: That guy is a boxer.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
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Exactly!
Similarly, a big part of WC training is for the development of certain attributes used in fighting, but NOT fighting moves/postures themselves. Much like, jumping ropes develops lightness and stamina which is useful in fighting but if a boxer skips around in that posture would just be comical.
Many of the WC postures/moves used in real fights are equally comical.
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Don't disagree with the second part but saying someone's Wing Chun is good only if they win is a poor yardstick IMHO. You can have poor Wing Chun and win if you are lucky or the other guy is poor, or you can have great Wing Chun and lose if you get unlucky or the other guy is great. No martial art makes you invincible.
A clever man learns from his mistakes but a truly wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
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The only way to recognize good wing chun is when it bites you in the @$$!!!
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wingchunIan , so what you ' re really saying is it does ' nt matter if the wing chun technique is good or bad . If the atttacker throws a right straight punch towards your face and you use a block of your choice to block the punch and you strike , if the timing is off you can miss the punch and still get hit ? So it ' s like saying you and the attacker and punch eachother out ?
And if you ' re able to block the attackers' punch with the block of your choice and punch the attacker in the face , then that ' s good wing chun then , is that what you ' re saying ?
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think you need to read my post again mate. What i was saying is that even the most gifted Wing Chun fighter can lose a fight (as can any other martial artist) it doesn't mean that their Wing Chun is no good, it just means that circumstances at the time lead to them losing. They may have excellent Wing Chun but the other person has better x, y or z. They may be awesome on 95% of occassions but could be feeling ill or be exhausted, or may slip at the vital moment or hell even just have a bad day at the office (which happens in everything). Of course if you always lose then something is clearly wrong.
A clever man learns from his mistakes but a truly wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
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wingchunIan , I read your posts twice , and to me the only way a gifted wing chun fighter would lose is because his opponent was better than him , gifted means you suppose to be good already . Because , in this world always get someone that ' s better than you . You would know your opponent , the minute you come into contact with the person . If you feel that your opponent is better than you , but you give the challenge your best shot , it ' ll give the opponent a challenge and from there it all depends on what happens . If your WC is good , then you should be able to win over your opponent . If your WC is bad then your opponent will have a advantage over you .
There is no circumstances in a fight or challenge it ' s either you lose or win . So that ' s why regardless of how gifted you are in WC it would ' nt hurt to challenge the sifu when possible . Another important thing is experience . I ' ve seen a WC expert lose against a free style kickboxer , it turns out that the kickboxer had more experience in fighting than the WC expert . It was embarrasing for the Wc expert , but that ' s realityh right there . this fight that I ' m talking about was on youtube .
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