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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainan Mantis View Post
    Third road of Beng Bu can be seen at 5:45 So, you can see how different, or similar it is to other schools, or to how you have learned it.
    This section of bung bu is similar as our CKTaichi mantis.

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    thanks for the info

    here is another video, which shows a section of something called "fumu quan" and then what i think is the opening of bengbu. just ignore the beginning where they are talking about the words eat and drink in haiyang dialect.....

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzk4NjExODI4.html

    wasnt zhao zhu xi a classmate of wang guo dian? who did they learn from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao yao View Post
    thanks for the info

    here is another video, which shows a section of something called "fumu quan" and then what i think is the opening of bengbu. just ignore the beginning where they are talking about the words eat and drink in haiyang dialect.....

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzk4NjExODI4.html

    wasnt zhao zhu xi a classmate of wang guo dian? who did they learn from?
    The basics are there, but that is a very different version of Beng Bu in the way he performs it.

    He certainly favors the 闪 步 闪 肋 臂 as a throwing technique rather than as a "lifting yin" strike.

    左 右 二 阴 阳 and 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌 are quite different. 左 封 右 叠 肘 is done quite low with a sinking power. While the end of the clip is fairly standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooyingmantis View Post
    The basics are there, but that is a very different version of Beng Bu in the way he performs it.

    He certainly favors the 闪 步 闪 肋 臂 as a throwing technique rather than as a "lifting yin" strike.

    左 右 二 阴 阳 and 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌 are quite different. 左 封 右 叠 肘 is done quite low with a sinking power. While the end of the clip is fairly standard.
    Like Alex said, it is like CKTaichi Mantis.
    This version does not contain 左 右 二 阴 阳 or 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainan Mantis View Post
    Like Alex said, it is like CKTaichi Mantis.
    This version does not contain 左 右 二 阴 阳 or 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌
    Thank you for the clarification! I guess I missed Alex's comment.
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    I missed this thread..sorry..I know it is sort of old. Re: "oldest style" of mantis? Does that settle the debate about which of the mantis families/sub-styles are the oldest? Would this clip of the form mean that Plum Blossom is the oldest? 7 star? 6 harmonies?

    I find it odd..and perhaps a bit frustrating that few have tried researching the subject more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaterthanNever View Post
    I missed this thread..sorry..I know it is sort of old. Re: "oldest style" of mantis? Does that settle the debate about which of the mantis families/sub-styles are the oldest? Would this clip of the form mean that Plum Blossom is the oldest? 7 star? 6 harmonies?

    I find it odd..and perhaps a bit frustrating that few have tried researching the subject more...
    It isn't a matter of the research not being attempted. It is more a matter of little documentary evidence, few documents due to the illiteracy of past instructors, and who you choose to believe when stories conflict.

    Some of us have come to our own conclusions on the issue. However, there is no sense starting a war over it, so we just keep our opinions to ourselves.
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