Although I wasn’t named (don’t feel bad I know you meant me as well) I’ll answer
My main criitism is that we see lots of chi say clips, almost no sparing clips and certainly even less fighting clips from the schools that post these clips, they seem to think chi sau is the big training secret, I have always stated that structure falls apart under pressure... well alan does pressure test his guys, he has plenty of clips of them sparring and fighting MMA and thai
And because its only part of his training, and he is trying to get away from all the bull and actually posts fighting and hard sparring. I don’t mind this clip, personally id rather do light clinch work than this, but im not a wing chun guy
If Kevin posted clips of just chi sau, and kept talking about how scientific wing chun fighting was i wouldn’t be impressed, if he also posted clips of his guys fighting full contact I might be and I wouldn’t rag on him, people posting endless chi sau clips without hard sparring and fighting clips is for me pointless as we can’t see the end result
As I say the clip for me isn’t anything special but alans not pretending it is, its just part of his training, but I appreciate there is pressure being applied and more importantly we can see by alans sparring and fighting clips of his students the outcome for him this sort of training brings
Last edited by Frost; 06-15-2012 at 01:52 AM.
Context, that's why.
Alan HAS showed clips of them fighting, MANY clips.
If he now chooses to show a more complaint drill clip, the context will dictate the response.
If all Alan puts up were clips like that, He WOULD get asked "where's the beef?"
As for "much better clips", well...that is subjective of course.
As for "a;; wing chun people" doing chi sao and sparring.
I'll give you that one, yes all WC people do chi sao and sparring ( of some sort).
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
BBWWAHHH !!!
Hey, I like kevin's clips and have nothing but respect for GM Philip Bayer ( and David Peterson and Gary Lam, etc...).
I think the WSL lineage has the goods from what I have seen.
Having read WSL book I KNOW that WSL knew "what was what".
Fighters KNOW Fighters and while I do NOT put myself in the league of legends like WSL, when you have fought enough ( iin and out of the ring) there are things you "expect" to hear coming from a guy that has "walked the walk" and you hear that in WSL.
My biggest critique of all the videos Kevin puts up is none of them have full contact sparring, which is something He says they do.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
In Okinawa they have a saying:
100 styles, 100 sanchin.
I think it is time for WC to adapt that saying for chi sao:
100 styles, 100 chi sao's
Because it is very clear that each system, each style, indeed, each lineage, has their OWN idea of Chi sao.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !