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    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    Cool feedback, everybody.

    A little more detail on the random question which had come up this past weekend:
    Do you value martial spirit outside the specific context of martial conflict and fighting?

    If so, how would you help another person gain and apply that value in a non-martial training context?

    Fighting can be taught without forms.

    Can spirit be taught without fighting?

    Death dealing blade becomes the life giving sword.

    Sword becomes no-sword.

    How?

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    you can definately apply the martial fight spirit in non fighting. if you take modern business for instance:

    you must be direct, effecient and ruthless with your adversaries, and you should attack with a ferocity that will be remembered so that your enemies at the very least will respect you. you will want to foster dedication and that same respect within your team. to do so you must conduct yourself honorably and consistantly before your peers and subordinates. you must make your enemies fear your power, and your allies should look to your strength for safety and succor.

    i have met more than one person with the heart and spirit of a warrior that has never fought martially.
    For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.

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    You can't teach martial spirit. You can teach a person all the right moves, but you can not shape his mind that he would use these moves.
    It is like a litter of puppies. You will find them to have very different personalities. There will be the wimpy pup or pups, and there will be the dominant one that whips all their a$$es. He is the one that has martial spirit, and it is not present in the others.
    I taught combat jiujitsu in the military. Even made up a little training manual so that others could teach the same. In only 2 months you can teach a hand full of technique or moves that work most of the time. Stuff that usually works well with less possibility of it failing. It has altered the personality of many a young serviceman. It shakes awake something inside them once they felt dangerous, and so they became so. But as for teaching martial spirit, I don't see you doing that in a few years, let alone 2 months. Maybe he will have it and just turn it loose once he feels confident. You can awaken the killer instinct, but you can not transplant it.
    Jackie Lee

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    I would run them through my 2 month apprenticeship program.

    The details are secret, but I will say it involves wearing silk pajamas and opening up their microcosmic orbit. The 2 months will conclude in a baisi ceremony, which basically makes them Chinese.

    $1000, up front, bring me my rice bowl white boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    seriously speaking, if someone doesnt want to fight or train persistently, but wants to develop warrior spirit in two months, i would ask for 200 dollars up front and promise to teach it to them.

    this is rice bowl scenario 101
    Ok, I will do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    1.Do you value martial spirit outside the specific context of martial conflict and fighting?

    2.If so, how would you help another person gain and apply that value in a non-martial training context?

    3.Fighting can be taught without forms.

    4.Can spirit be taught without fighting?

    5.Death dealing blade becomes the life giving sword.

    6.Sword becomes no-sword.

    7.How?
    1. yes
    2. you can't in my experience, it comes from experience.
    3. Of course, there is no denying that.
    4. Yes, but not fighting spirit.
    5. A sword is always both life giving and death dealing by virtue of it being a sword.
    6. There is no dust and we are not mirrors. Avoid fortune cookie platitudes.
    7. Work. Begin and continue.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Define martial spirit

    What specifically are you referring to? I know what I'm defining it as not sure it's the same as yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KwaiChangCaine View Post
    What specifically are you referring to? I know what I'm defining it as not sure it's the same as yours.
    I'm referring to whatever definition people care to use.

    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    You can use whatever definition of martial spirit you prefer.
    I'm not asking for myself.

    I'm just asking because I'd thought we'd get some interesting posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tao Of The Fist View Post
    Teach a few basic techniques, then throw them in a pit of angry women with various household items. Repeat till they can effectively use them.
    "Repeat till they can effectively use them."

    The students and the techniques?

    The women and the household items?

    The students and the women?

    The women and the students?

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    A combination of bravery, skill, confidence and maybe compassion?
    Last edited by KwaiChangCaine; 06-19-2012 at 05:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KwaiChangCaine View Post
    A combination of bravery, skill, confidence and maybe compassion?
    Sure, that can work.

    So for your definition, how would you teach your student to get improvement in those areas in two months time?

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    me think

    1. diligence or persistence

    2. planning: calculate all risks. collect more intel and calculate again. fight with your brain and use your strength and strike when the opponent is least prepared and where the opponent is least guarded---

    3. teamwork

    three spirits to cultivate

    there are more in sun zi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    Fighting can be taught without forms.

    Can spirit be taught without fighting?
    fighting cannot be taught without fighting.

    spirit cannot be taught without spirit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    "Repeat till they can effectively use them."

    The students and the techniques?

    The women and the household items?

    The students and the women?

    The women and the students?

    This will be called the 'Handling Women, Handling Life Song'.

    "The man who uses his fist to handle his women is an abuser, but the man who uses his words to win can defeat gods and dragons. Unless she can fight, then by all means kick her ass."
    Although the changes are infinite, the principles are the same.
    - Wang Tsung Yueh

    To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill.
    - Sun Tzu

    Boards don't hit back.
    - Bruce Lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    Do you value martial spirit outside the specific context of martial conflict and fighting?

    If so, how would you help another person gain and apply that value in a non-martial training context?

    Fighting can be taught without forms.

    Can spirit be taught without fighting?

    Death dealing blade becomes the life giving sword.

    Sword becomes no-sword.

    How?

    The varja sutra said it all.

    Forget about oneself will do it.
    But most are unwilling. And those who is willing needs to develop samadhi power.

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