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    Which do you think is better?

    Which do you think is better? which do you prefer?


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    i can sense a hidden meaning but..its too subtle for me!!!

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    Who would you bet money on?



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    I'll take Dempsey over Margarito ALL DAY!

    Didn't they do an experiment where modern day runners donned the same shoes used by Jesse Owens and were clocked at around the same time?

    Granted, I see your point that modern stuff is typically an improvement, but that's not always the case.
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pork Chop View Post
    I'll take Dempsey over Margarito ALL DAY!

    Didn't they do an experiment where modern day runners donned the same shoes used by Jesse Owens and were clocked at around the same time?

    Granted, I see your point that modern stuff is typically an improvement, but that's not always the case.
    LOL,
    You know what I was comparing and it wasn't Dempsey to Margarito.
    I tried my best to avoid "elite vs elite" because, well that just wouldn't be fair.
    ( we would probably compare Dempsey in his prime to Tyson in his prime then?).
    And I never heard of the running experiment, link?

    But lets assume that was the case, that means that the average sprinter of today was as fast as the "best of the best" in the 30's.

    That is saying something alright.

    Lets take boxing as an example.
    The the average top 20 boxer of today and compare him to the average top 20 boxer of 100 years ago (1912), who would you put your money on?

    Same thing for every athletic en devour you can think of.
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    The reality is that we are NOT comparing Jesse Owens to Osain Bolt ( for example), that would not be fair at all.
    What we are comparing is the training of even 50 years ago, to the training of today and I submit that IF Jesse was running and training with TODAY's methods, he would be running under 9.9 easy and probably under 9.8.
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    I prefer the hybrid approach between old/new... like this.



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    I see your point(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    i can sense a hidden meaning but..its too subtle for me!!!
    You need to get some "layers" under you, 5 is about right
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    The reality is that training in sports, which are the highest examples of physical en devours, has grown quite a bit in the last 50 years ( to round off a number).
    To not take advantage of modern sports biomechanics is, well, silly.
    To be stuck in using terms and views that are outdated and archaic terms that are irrelevant, just for the sake of "tradition" belies the fact that those terms were used THEN because they DIDN'T know what we know NOW.
    I can almost guarantee that if any o f the developers of the MA were around today, you wouldn't be hearing anything other the modern and current terms for what they were doing.
    Psalms 144:1
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    [IMG]http://super-genius.org/images/bump_stir_****.jpg[/IMG]


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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyB View Post
    [IMG]http://super-genius.org/images/bump_stir_****.jpg[/IMG]


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    Facinating
    Psalms 144:1
    Praise be my Lord my Rock,
    He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Facinating
    couldn't reference an image of sh*t stirring.

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    but, to give a real argument...

    I think that the issue (kung fu) is too complex to simplify with an old versus new argument... especially when referencing training methodology.

    Are modern methods better... who's to say because it's too dependent on the individual's desired outcome.

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    Cool

    It all depends on resources available.

    No gas. Mustang with v6 engine will not run.
    Bicycle would be good to travel.

    Battle ship needs hundreds of people to run engines and operate battery guns.

    If there is only you with few people, sail boat would be easy to travel.

    Machine gun depleted ammo fast. If you do not have lots of bullets, then a rifle is fine.

    Etc etc
    Last edited by SPJ; 06-12-2012 at 09:00 AM.

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