A Hypothetical Face of Kung Fu To The World

[Faruq]

If Bruce Lee had never happened and Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do had never become such popular martial arts, what system of gong fu do you think should represent gong fu to the world?

[Jimbo]

There already is one; Taiji quan. Worldwide, there are more people who do Taiji than Wing Chun.

[TenTigers]

Central Kuoshu in Nanjing was established in the early 1900's as well as Jing Mo.
In the 1940's Wu-Shu was already being instituted in Chinese schools.
So, perhaps wu-shu and sanshou.

[Faruq]

Central Kuoshu in Nanjing was established in the early 1900's as well as Jing Mo.
In the 1940's Wu-Shu was already being instituted in Chinese schools.
So, perhaps wu-shu and sanshou.

Are you saying Wu-shu began before the cultural revolution and the machine gunning of some 15,000 gong fu masters? Wow. I didn't know that. The Chinese government really didn't want any competent martial artists who could challenge it! Deep.

[TenTigers]

Are you saying Wu-shu began before the cultural revolution and the machine gunning of some 15,000 gong fu masters? Wow. I didn't know that. The Chinese government really didn't want any competent martial artists who could challenge it! Deep.

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dude, they've been executing Gung-Fu Masters since the Ching Dynasty.
"Fan Ching Fuk Ming!"

[pazman]

With no wing chun, the world would be a better place.

[Faruq]

dude, they've been executing Gung-Fu Masters since the Ching Dynasty.
"Fan Ching Fuk Ming!"

Yeah I know, with the burning of the temple back in 1642. But that didn't start Wu-shu; just proliferated real gong gu throughout the country. The surprise to me was that Wu-shu would have started before the executions. I thought it started when the government realized what a great treasure they had lost when all those masters were executed, and in an effort to recapture it, they created the empty shell that is Wu-shu.

[hskwarrior]

Hung Sing Choy Lee Fut for Stand Up CoMbAt

[xinyidizi]

Central Kuoshu in Nanjing was established in the early 1900's as well as Jing Mo.
In the 1940's Wu-Shu was already being instituted in Chinese schools.
So, perhaps wu-shu and sanshou.

What do you mean by wushu? Was wushu a specific style back then?

[Lee Chiang Po]

What is passive aggressive? It is a contradiction of terms I think. You know, there are very few if any real gung fu fighters on this forum. I think it is more a fantasy forum really. Wing Chun is probably the only real true fighting art that is represented by this forum, and most of what I see is just a chi sao compitition rather then a fighting system. I think that is why people look at it with such a jaundiced eye. I lay that off on Ip Man for teaching it to white folk.

[pazman]

Passive aggressiveness is expressing negative or destructive emotions in a subtle or indirect way. And you are right....chi sao and push hands are very prone to passive aggressiveness. This is one of the many lessons I learned in China, never accept a "push hands" match from a stranger. It's a good way to get sucker punched. Offering a sparring match will usually be answered with accusations of being violent and possibly getting the cops called on you.

This is why I like Sanda. Two people can have a clean, safe place to test their skills and know exactly where their skill stands.

[PalmStriker]

When I was young and first heard of Chinese Kung fu in the 6o's, I envisioned something that would look just like the movement and ferocity in this video. This is how real kungfu should be presented, everything else, scraped. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYdl9...eature=related

[Shaolin]

If Bruce Lee had never happened and Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do had never become such popular martial arts, what system of gong fu do you think should represent gong fu to the world?

Shaolin. But I'm biased.

[mickey]

Greetings,

If Bruce Lee was not around, there might be a higher level of kung fu in this country and around the world.

It was not Bruce Lee that triggered the "sudden interest" in the Chinese martial arts, it was the kung fu movie boom triggered by Serafim Karalexis, beginning with Five Fingers of Death. It was the '70's that posed the question as to whether Karate was better that Chinese martial arts. And a few came forward to represent: Hui Cambrelen, Tayari Casel, and Paul Vizzio. They did represent well. Yet it would take few losses for more of the the real stuff to be shared by the Chinese community and if Bruce Lee did not exist, I think it would have happened a lot sooner. It's a face thing.

The presence of Wushu in this country had a lot to do with the Nixon administration. It was China's export to the world.

mickey

[Faruq]

Greetings,...It was the '70's that posed the question as to whether Karate was better that Chinese martial arts. And a few came forward to represent: Hui Cambrelen, Tayari Casel, and Paul Vizzio. They did represent well. Yet it would take few losses for more of the the real stuff to be shared by the Chinese...mickey

Wow! Great comments! Who did Hui and these guys fight from the karate world? And what do you mean by "Yet it would take few losses for more of the the real stuff to be shared by the Chinese"? What more of the "real stuff" ended up being shared by the Chinese?