Weight training for TCMA

[Frost]

Yeah, and that's not a silly insult

nope its the truth, it is where you get your info from isnt it? or from books from guys who do those infomertials

because there is no way on gods green earth anyone who has done any research would get Periodisation that wrong!

[bawang]

nope its the truth, it is where you get your info from isnt it?

that guy criticized and disrespected a guy on a book, then realized its lam sai wing his own founder. saying his crane beak was wrong and out of alignment. lol

[Frost]

that guy criticized and disrespected a guy on a book, then realized its lam sai wing his own founder. saying his crane beak was wrong and out of alignment. lol

why am i not surprised lol

[bawang]

why am i not surprised lol

because we alpha. we can sense the weak and soft-anused.

[RWilson]

translation

This is the extent of your conditioning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPkwr...e_gdata_player

[HumbleWCGuy]

This is the extent of your conditioning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPkwr...e_gdata_player

You knew right where to find that video. I would say that you are projecting your slovenliness on to others.

[Drake]

I am not putting words in your mouth. Your problem is that you are vomiting posts out onto the forum, and apparently, you can't make sense of the disconnected vomit-spray that you are spewing. So, when someone who can connect the dots of your nonsense comes along and asks you about it, you get mad.

It doesn't really matter how long you have been in the military if you don't know anything about steroids. You definitely aren't clear about the military drug testing policies.

You definitely don't know a lot about working out either, the basic assumptions of CrossFit are embarrassingly incorrect.

So, in other words, you think I am wrong, and will use insults to prove your point? Feels nice, doesn't it?

Oh, wait, that IS what you did. You didn't refute my points with facts or data, and are now throwing a fit of insults in order to discredit what I said. Very, very brilliant.

[Drake]

On a side note, virtually all high intensity exercise is good for you. For example, I ran for several miles the other day with a team carrying a litter with water jugs on them. Once we made it up the side of the hill, we did sprints, lunges, and fireman carries up the steep side of the hill. We then ran back with the litters and water jugs. High intensity, great workout.
Reflecting, I can see how old school workouts kept similar tempos in their workouts. For whatever reason, they are disappearing from TCMA, and that's a **** shame.

[wenshu]

A statistic of what? Certainly not injury rates.

Personal anecdotes aren't valid, either. There's a lot of urban legends and misinformation out there to make anecdotes one of the worst sources in terms of quantitative data. Google the word porn, and tell me what the findings mean. Nothing, really.

Oh sorry, you're too lazy to click some links with a little critical thinking and need researchers to tell you whats misinformation and whats not.

You do realize google is a powerful research tool right? That the indices are basically just a database you can query? It doesn't do the work for you, you still need to think.

You can google porn addiction and you'll probably get a pretty good idea of it's prevalence. You don't need scientific research when a google search, some basic critical thinking and common sense is sufficient. Or you can keep using science as a buzzword to hide your laziness and bias.

What exactly do you think is one of the most important data sources researchers are going to use if they ever study Assfit injury rates? Anecdotes from affiliates, trainers and participants.

http://www.exra.org/2009%20BJSM%20re...-%20Zemper.htm

As noted previously, the most complete information on catastrophic sports injuries in youth is found in the database maintained at the National Center for Catastrophic Injury Research (NCCIR) at the University of North Carolina. Drawing on reports from coaches, athletic directors, athletic trainers, national athletic organizations, a national newspaper clipping service, and a network of professional colleagues, center staff communicate directly with coaches, administrators or physicians involved with each reported injury to collect detailed information on the circumstances, diagnosis and extent of each reported injury.

Research like this would do you little good anyways. You can't compare it to the injury rates of sports because, a, it's not a sport in the first place and b, generally athletes get injured on the field of play, not conditioning for it.

Within crossfit these idiots literally call it the "rupture club". There's no funding for research because no one gives a fuck about soccer mom's and beta males doing Zumba.

[wenshu]

Haha...Wenshu just got spanked I hope that didn't sting too bad.

3) Unless you're like Frost and WenShu who have the time to devote an entire day to training their gluteus minimus.

Olson, your fixation with my ass is worrisome, I already told you I'm not into scat play.

[Drake]

Oh sorry, you're too lazy to click some links with a little critical thinking and need researchers to tell you whats misinformation and whats not.

You do realize google is a powerful research tool right? That the indices are basically just a database you can query? It doesn't do the work for you, you still need to think.

You can google porn addiction and you'll probably get a pretty good idea of it's prevalence. You don't need scientific research when a google search, some basic critical thinking and common sense is sufficient. Or you can keep using science as a buzzword to hide your laziness and bias.

What exactly do you think is one of the most important data sources researchers are going to use if they ever study Assfit injury rates? Anecdotes from affiliates, trainers and participants.

http://www.exra.org/2009%20BJSM%20re...-%20Zemper.htm



Research like this would do you little good anyways. You can't compare it to the injury rates of sports because, a, it's not a sport in the first place and b, generally athletes get injured on the field of play, not conditioning for it.

Within crossfit these idiots literally call it the "rupture club". There's no funding for research because no one gives a fuck about soccer mom's and beta males doing Zumba.

What bias? WTF are you talking about?

Listen, I could give a flying **** if you guys do whatever to stay in shape, ok? It's obvious there's a HUGE issue with physical fitness in TCMA, and the potbellies are more than obvious. It's even more hilarious when said person with potbelly RIPS a workout methodology while being fat as all **** themselves.

I DON'T ****ING DO CROSSFIT. I only said it like five times. WTF is so ****ing wrong with your head that you can't figure that out. I have seen dozens upon dozens of people successfully do crossfit, be in amazing shape, and be injury free. So, if you think some obnoxious **** on the internet is going to convince me with unconvincing bull****, you are dead wrong.

And guess what, genius... a LOT of people get hurt in martial arts. ALL THE ****ING TIME. What's your point?

[Old Noob]

I've been an Army JAG Officer for 13 years and am familiar with the Army's drug testing policies. You're both partially right. Steroids are not tested for on every sample; they are tested ramdomly on certain batches and/or on request of the unit Commander.

As for crossfit, its like martial arts in that there are good crossfit gyms and bad crossfit gyms; there are good crossfit practitioners and bad crossfit practitioners. The problem, as I see it, is that the olympic lifts can be very dangerous if done incorrectly so, if you are either a bad student or a good student at a bad gym that doesn't do a good job of teaching you proper technique, you are at risk. This risk increases as crossfit's popularity increases (you get less qualified teachers and less qualified learners). I've recently been in physical therapy rehabbing a shoulder injury and (I know this is anecdotal) my PT said that a large percentage of their clientelle were crossfitters.

The military is using crossfit but I think they've been using crossfil principles in some of their workouts (take Drakes litter carry) for a while now. But, as Drake also said, that's just for the fitness part. Soldiers will do crossfit for PT, train combatives, go to the shoothouse or the range, then do land navigation, etc. The infantryman's job when not deployed is constant training.

[wenshu]

And guess what, genius... a LOT of people get hurt in martial arts. ALL THE ****ING TIME. What's your point?

That is my point. Injuries happen in martial arts, while actually practicing martial arts. You're not supposed to get injured just conditioning. The point of conditioning is to prevent injuries while actually doing something like martial arts.

http://phc.amedd.army.mil/PHC%20Reso..._Army_2012.pdf

2 Potential Benefits
ECPs may help to reduce body fat, enhance muscle strength and endurance, and increase cardiovascular capacity. For many warfighters, the exercise pace and difficulty of ECPs are appealing, motivating, and exciting. Additionally, there is a perception that these programs can help prepare Soldiers for physically demanding occupational tasks in garrison and during deployment. In group settings, ECPs may even foster teamwork and contribute to unit camaraderie. There is, however, insufficient research to suggest that ECPs are more beneficial than other types of fitness programs.
3 Potential Risks
The risk for musculoskeletal injury from ECPs may be greater than from other types of conditioning programs, particularly for individuals just starting an ECP because they may try to do too much too soon. Additionally, some of the exercises require a high degree of skill and coordination to safely execute. Risks associated with ECPs include muscle strains, torn ligaments, stress fractures, and exertional rhabdomyolysis (a potentially life-threatening condition resulting from breakdown of skeletal muscle following heavy physical activity). Conditions like these can result in lost duty time for medical treatment and extensive rehabilitation, which can adversely affect individual and unit readiness. In addition, ECPs should not be considered a replacement for Army physical training doctrine (Army Training Circular 3-22.20, Army Physical Readiness Training), as they do not cover all Soldier conditioning and training needs.

why u mad tho?

The problem, as I see it, is that the olympic lifts can be very dangerous if done incorrectly so, if you are either a bad student or a good student at a bad gym that doesn't do a good job of teaching you proper technique, you are at risk. This risk increases as crossfit's popularity increases (you get less qualified teachers and less qualified learners). I've recently been in physical therapy rehabbing a shoulder injury and (I know this is anecdotal) my PT said that a large percentage of their clientelle were crossfitters.

Haven't even mention the stupidity of doing Olympic lifts for reps in a state of fatigue. The certifications literally teach people that doing dangerous lifts with lack of form is acceptable.

[HumbleWCGuy]

I've been an Army JAG Officer for 13 years and am familiar with the Army's drug testing policies. You're both partially right. Steroids are not tested for on every sample; they are tested ramdomly on certain batches and/or on request of the unit Commander.

As for crossfit, its like martial arts in that there are good crossfit gyms and bad crossfit gyms; there are good crossfit practitioners and bad crossfit practitioners. The problem, as I see it, is that the olympic lifts can be very dangerous if done incorrectly so, if you are either a bad student or a good student at a bad gym that doesn't do a good job of teaching you proper technique, you are at risk. This risk increases as crossfit's popularity increases (you get less qualified teachers and less qualified learners). I've recently been in physical therapy rehabbing a shoulder injury and (I know this is anecdotal) my PT said that a large percentage of their clientelle were crossfitters.

The military is using crossfit but I think they've been using crossfil principles in some of their workouts (take Drakes litter carry) for a while now. But, as Drake also said, that's just for the fitness part. Soldiers will do crossfit for PT, train combatives, go to the shoothouse or the ranhttp://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1184058ge, then do land navigation, etc. The infantryman's job when not deployed is constant training.

That's sort of the thing. There is nothing about the Crossfit certification that promises quality which makes Crossfit crap. "Crossfit" works when you have a guy who is extremely qualified in exercise sciences and just gets the CrossFit shingle for the marketing.

Each Service is
required to test at least 1000 random specimens for anabolic steroids every 2 years
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/c...df/101016p.pdf

With all the military monsters that I see, I don't think that much testing occurs unless, you exhibit poor behavior. If you read on any steroid board, you will quickly learn that no serviceman has a fear of the steroid testing policy.

[bawang]

why dont the army accept steroids? dont they want badass supersoldiers?