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    How much do you work on striking power

    Hi All
    Just watched a boxing match on YouTube (Golovkin-Proska) and witnessed a chap (Golovkin) with very heavy hands win the fight.
    It became obvious, very early in the fight, that G could hurt everytime he landed. Got stopped in the 5th

    So got me thinking, how many folks on here really work their power development?
    I mean really put a focus on it.
    How do they do it?
    How do they measure it?

    Surely, one shot stopping power is a great attribute in a self defense style

    GlennR

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
    Surely, one shot stopping power is a great attribute in a self defense style.
    IMO, nothing is more imporatnt than to use a single punch to drop an incoming attacker. One training that I like to share here.

    Ask your opponent to hold a body shield. Your opponent runs toward you in full speed. Without any gloves on your hand, you try to use a single punch (with your body structure behind it) to stop the incoming object. Repeat this 100 times daily. Record the outcome such as how many time that your feet are forced to move back. Compare your records 6 months later.

    You can use the same method to test your "front kick" too. The advantage of this method compare to heavy bag work out is, by using this method, you can start with a 160 lb opponent, you than change your opponnet to 180 lb, 200 lb, ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    IMO, nothing is more imporatnt than to use a single punch to drop an incoming attacker. There is one training that I like to share here.

    Ask your opponent to hold a body shield. Your opponent runs toward you in full speed. Without any gloves on your hand, you try to use a single punch (with your body structure behind it) to stop the incoming object. Repeat this 100 times daily. Record the outcome such as how many time that your feet are forced to move back. Compare your records 6 months later.
    Interesting exercise, and ive done the same thing before with a WC front/heel kick.

    The obvious question is, what if he's not coming at you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
    what if he's not coming at you?
    To deal with an opponent who keeps moving back when you move in can be another interest discussion subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    To deal with an opponent who keeps moving back when you move in can be another interest discussion subject.
    Well thats the discussion at hand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
    Actually, for arguments sake, he's not moving forward or back
    You have to move in toward him. You are talking about "entering strategy" now instead of a punch to the head to drop your opponent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    To deal with an opponent who keeps moving back when you move in can be another interest discussion subject.
    Actually, for arguments sake, he's not moving forward or back

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    Power striking is pretty much imbedded in everything that I do. You might play with this that or the other to set-up power shots, but ultimately the goal is usually to land power shots to a spot to shut the opponent down. I am always watching mechanics to see if leverage is being applied.

    Also, power is about a lot of things, hitting with force, accuracy, combination, and strategy. The point of throwing a flicker jab isn't the flicker jab itself, right? It's about landing a power shot at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumbleWCGuy View Post
    Power striking is pretty much impeded in everything that I do. You might play with this that or the other to set-up power shots, but ultimately the goal is usually to land power shots to a spot to shut the opponent down. I am always watching mechanics to see if leverage is being applied.

    Also, power is about a lot of things, hitting with force, accuracy, combination, and strategy. The point of throwing a flicker jab isn't the flicker jab itself, right? It's about landing a power shot at some point.
    Fine, but the question was, HOW its increased and measured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
    Fine, but the question was, HOW its increased and measured?
    Do you know any striking tool that can measure punching power (in lb)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Do you know any striking tool that can measure punching power (in lb)?
    Yes, ive seen a few pads with pressure measurement devices in them, ages ago now though

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
    Fine, but the question was, HOW its increased and measured?
    Oh well, I answered what I wanted.
    Last edited by HumbleWCGuy; 09-02-2012 at 12:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
    So got me thinking, how many folks on here really work their power development?
    I mean really put a focus on it.
    How do they do it?
    How do they measure it?

    Surely, one shot stopping power is a great attribute in a self defense style
    How to train it?
    Olympic lifts, plyometrics, heavy bag work.
    Don't need anything else. You have your three bases covered: power, explosiveness, structure against resistance.

    How much?
    Lifting three times a week. Plyometrics twice a week. Heavy bag four times a week.
    How to measure it?
    How far I hit the same heavy bag with one shot.

    And as good as power is I'm more concerned with positioning in self defence. I can always put a person through a wall, table, the floor, etc with superior grappling and striking position.

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    Their are great ways to develop power from

    punching wall bag

    explosive push ups and burpees

    chin ups and pull ups

    heavy bag and wall bag for conditioning and power...Get a heavy bag the weight of most of your opponents an eventually move up to 300....

    Thats training...


    The true way to gauge your power is to have a non-friendly competition where challenge someone like UFC or MMA...An if you can knock out most of your opponents then you have achieved knock out power...if you cant...then you dont go it...


    To test rather or not you have a knock out power or killing power you have to first use it in real life...You know if you got heavy hands from actually fighting!
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Training....Should always increase....

    The key to punching power above every thing else is punching something with maximum resistance very hard. If your power is making the bag flop all around or move all over the place thats because the bag is too light. You need more weight...hundred lbs bag needs to be increased to a 200lbs bag...when 200lbs is too light increase to 300lbs and so forth.

    Your focus is to hit the makawara board, the wall bag and the heavy bag with all your force continously. Build your self up...When you can hit the wall bag or heavy bag with all your force 1000 times your force will be substantial. A big part of your power is endurance and stamina and breath. if you cant punch at 100% for very long how will you be able to land a knock blow to begin with. Lucky shots are rare..Plus an opponent who is always moving doesn't just stand there so you can hit him correctly....


    Old chinese method for iron palm starts off with wall bag filled with rice, beans, sand, gravel and then steel shots...After the steal shots you move on to bricks and boulder...

    Each time your able to break said number of bricks add a brick an keep going...keep making your power grow in your iron palm technique...it doesnt stop with one or two or four bricks...make it so you can break ten or twenty bricks. Then if you opponent is moving you may not hit with the entire amount of the power you accumulated but half of twenty is still alot of power to hit a moving opponent with.

    A solid rock with no cracks or openings you keep dropping force on until you can crack it. Then after you crack one make your goal to crack two...When you can crack a boulder with one strike you have completed your iron palm training.

    Something similiar should be done with punch training...Your goal should be to hit as hard as you can all the time...As when lifting when you give it your all, adding weight each time you get stronger you find your body getting strong. with push ups you add reps as yo body gets stronger....So with your punching giving it your all add time duration...As your power increases an you can punch more or long you will find your power mutate as you fight forreal. Not spar but fight...

    You can not gauge your power with sparring because sparring is to developed other attributes of the WC not your power....The wooden man and wall bag is there to express your power....But the only way to truly Judge autenic power is by actually fighting...

    Hence why they had the Beimo...So your opponents defeat at your fist could judge your power...You know your powerful by how many people you knocked out or hit so hard they didnt want to fight anymore!


    So you say you have knock out power - Asked your self how many street fights have you had since you developed said knock out power? How many of those street fight ended in a KO of your opponent!
    Last edited by Yoshiyahu; 09-04-2012 at 01:58 PM.
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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