How important is speed and percision accuracy....
How do you measure your speed and accuracy? How do you develop it?
I believe a key component along with strenght and power is speed which can be useful when you utilize flow!
What do you think?
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How important is speed and percision accuracy....
How do you measure your speed and accuracy? How do you develop it?
I believe a key component along with strenght and power is speed which can be useful when you utilize flow!
What do you think?
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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You can't disentable speed and accuracy from power. Our conception of punching power is really about creating a maximum force collision.
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Say What?Originally Posted by HumbleWCGuy
In boxing and other fighting forms they isolate training dealing with stamina, speed, power, strength, and agility...
My Question is how do you train speed.
My Sidai is alot stronger than I was back when we first started training...i had alot more speed than he did!
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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This is all attribute thinking. While attributes are always important, it is surface level stuff - WC goes a lot deeper than just thinking 'who's stronger or faster'.
Also, what kind of speed are you even talking about anyway? Just play old hand speed? Footwork? Reaction time? Sensitivity? Are you talking about in regards to what you see or what you feel? (If you're going to be loading up the forums again with all these countless generic threads, it might help if you could try to be a little less general and offer up some ideas of your own first..)
Besides all that, a better question IMO would be to ask: what is it about WC that allows us to overcome someone that has greater attributes, and how do I train that?
Last edited by JPinAZ; 09-06-2012 at 01:52 PM.
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JP, that would be logical wouldn't it? As for me ... I'm going for lots of popcorn and beer, this could very will be another long winded thread.This is all attribute thinking. While attributes are always important, it is surface level stuff - WC goes a lot deeper than just thinking 'who's stronger or faster'.
Also, what kind of speed are you even talking about anyway? Just play old hand speed? Footwork? Reaction time? Sensitivity? Are you talking about in regards to what you see or what you feel? (If you're going to be loading up the forums again with all these countless generic threads, it might help if you could try to be a little less general and offer up some ideas of your own first..)
Besides all that, a better question IMO would be to ask: what is it about WC that allows us to overcome someone that has greater attributes, and how do I train that?
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There is an old Wing Chun Saying Speed beats Strenght...If someone has equal skill in fighting as you do...But they are stronger who will win...Apart of your skill should include speed, stamina, endurance, agility, power, strength and balance...I digress...This is all attribute thinking. While attributes are always important, it is surface level stuff - WC goes a lot deeper than just thinking 'who's stronger or faster'.
Also, what kind of speed are you even talking about anyway? Just play old hand speed? Footwork? Reaction time? Sensitivity? Are you talking about in regards to what you see or what you feel? (If you're going to be loading up the forums again with all these countless generic threads, it might help if you could try to be a little less general and offer up some ideas of your own first..)
Besides all that, a better question IMO would be to ask: what is it about WC that allows us to overcome someone that has greater attributes, and how do I train that?
As for what speed should include...I say all that you spoke of it should...But what i was insinuating is someone who has faster strikes their opponent! meaning their kicks are faster and their punches are faster....
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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Having great strength is always a plus for anyone. Speed is relative I guess. More than anything you need conviction. You can not do something only half way or it simply does not work. It requires you go all the way. Conviction, determination, whatever you wants to call it, but it is more a mental thing. Of course you have to develop your own weapon skills. You got to be able to punch and block properly, and you need to be able to move from one technique to the next as needed with absolutely no hesitation. If you hesitate, then speed matters. Especially the speed of your opponent. You stop, or hesitate and he will catch you. If he is stronger, then it matters even more.
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I've never hear that in WC. Who told you that, Stan?
Again, while speed can beat strength, I'm not placing my money on that bet - What if you opponent is stronger AND faster than you? I guess in your case you're just screwed yeah? You can't always hope you are faster than the next guy, you have to plan for the opposite to be true. And in WC, it is superior structure, position, leverage and control of time/space that gives the best chance to beat a faster or stronger guy.
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It's all for the purpose of hitting someone as hard as possible. Stamina... For combinations... Speed so the other guy has less time to block.. Etc. Fast in of itself isn't that valuable without strength and leverage. That's all that I am saying.
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You should never use speed as an excuse to not lift weights.
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Well, in my opinion it is not just about how hard you hit, but how much damage you can cause (of course, I'm not saying not to hit hard). For example, an unpredictable hit with less force can cause just as much damage with a full force strike if the opponent has time to brace up.
To make the strikes difficult to block; apart from speed, stealth is also an important component. Conceal your strikes until it is too late for the opponent to do anything.
I am a relatively small guy so I always assume my opponent is stronger and faster so I have to come up with effective strategies to overcome my weaknesses.
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