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    Simply Ignore Them (is that so hard..?)

    yeah, I know, it's like picking a scab, or that invisible splinter that you have to just keep on touching...
    Every time there is a discussion, there is always some troll that derails the thread.
    It's not so much their comments, but the fact that people start addressing them and then get pulled into their little drama.
    So let's simply agree that the next time one of these guys (I don't even know their handles..they're really not that important to me that they have a name) starts in, whether it is about dissing TCMA, or chi-sao, or TCM, or anything, just leave it, and continue with the thread.
    DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
    Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"

    "I will not be part of the generation
    that killed Kung-Fu."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenTigers View Post
    yeah, I know, it's like picking a scab, or that invisible splinter that you have to just keep on touching...
    Every time there is a discussion, there is always some troll that derails the thread.
    It's not so much their comments, but the fact that people start addressing them and then get pulled into their little drama.
    So let's simply agree that the next time one of these guys (I don't even know their handles..they're really not that important to me that they have a name) starts in, whether it is about dissing TCMA, or chi-sao, or TCM, or anything, just leave it, and continue with the thread.
    DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
    +1

    The best way to deal is to continue the actual discussion vs. responding to them. Then their trolling gets buried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenTigers View Post
    Every time there is a discussion, there is always some troll that derails the thread.

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    DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
    Just reply with this pic


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    There are two kinds of trolls on this forum:

    1) The people who perpetuate qigong myths (except they're trolling the entire MA world, not just this forum).

    2) The inadvertent trolls who talk about using fancy techniques when they've never trained against a resisting opponent. I say "inadvertent" because they aren't technically trolling since they believe they are telling the truth.

    Everyone else is cool. Even group #2 up there is cool cuz some of them are at least open minded about their training.

    Group #1 is maximum trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Hate Ashida Kim View Post
    There are two kinds of trolls on this forum:

    1) The people who perpetuate qigong myths (except they're trolling the entire MA world, not just this forum).

    2) The inadvertent trolls who talk about using fancy techniques when they've never trained against a resisting opponent. I say "inadvertent" because they aren't technically trolling since they believe they are telling the truth.

    Everyone else is cool. Even group #2 up there is cool cuz some of them are at least open minded about their training.

    Group #1 is maximum trolling.

    ok, here is one of those STFU moments.
    Unless that is actually the topic of the thread. But if you're going to start interjecting your opinions where they are not wanted...well, there ya go.
    See? It's that easy.
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
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    "I will not be part of the generation
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    I concede that I'm part of the problem. Especially if I'm feeling a bit tired and bitter, it becomes really easy to take it out on the cloud of malingering, non practicing self professed "gong fu is bad" public service anouncements. Yet somehow I never tire of emphasizing that the peanut gallery at a LARPER convention is several orders of magnitude more pathetic than the actual LARPERs. See, I just did it again.

    Something that I think gets overlook is the implied demand that gong fu prove itself to be best at everything.

    "Why don't we see gong fu winning UFC blah blah blah"

    Why does it have to?

    99.999999% of people who practice MMA aren't winning UFC either. There are just as many if not more shit students in every strip mall MMA gym as there are in Wing Chun or Shaolin-Do.

    http://vimeo.com/42209600

    Whenever all the scrawny, malingering trolls want to work out there frustrations in life on gong fu it starts from this implied assumption that every schlub who walks into a boxing gym or weight room is going to start throwing lead straight rights like Mayweather and cleans like Pyrros.

    This is the mentality of people whose biggest work out is when they peel themselves off of their sofa to go make some hot pockets before they sit at their computer to tell people about the best, most effecient ways to train your body to fight. The only people who have to constantly repeat platitudes like "training against resisting opponents" are people who have never trained against resisting opponents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wenshu View Post
    I concede that I'm part of the problem. Especially if I'm feeling a bit tired and bitter, it becomes really easy to take it out on the cloud of malingering, non practicing self professed "gong fu is bad" public service anouncements. Yet somehow I never tire of emphasizing that the peanut gallery at a LARPER convention is several orders of magnitude more pathetic than the actual LARPERs. See, I just did it again.

    Something that I think gets overlook is the implied demand that gong fu prove itself to be best at everything.

    "Why don't we see gong fu winning UFC blah blah blah"

    Why does it have to?

    99.999999% of people who practice MMA aren't winning UFC either. There are just as many if not more shit students in every strip mall MMA gym as there are in Wing Chun or Shaolin-Do.
    exactly, we don't see it there because there train in much different ways, almost like complete opposite.

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    Whoa.

    Whoa.

    Whoa.

    Whoa.

    Whoa.

    Whoa.

    Whoa.

    Whoa, man.

    Larping is cool.

    (plus Larpers don't talk crap about how they would actually win in real sword fights against resisting opponents... )

    Srsly though, if larpers enjoy larping, let them larp. While I've never done it, I bet you it's tons of fun. I mean... would they keep doing it if it wasn't?

    If people enjoy doing TCMA, let them do TCMA.

    The only issues are when it's misrepresented as something it's not.
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    We have many interest groups here. Those who is interest in

    - WC only,
    - MMA only,
    - Health and spiritual development only,
    - IMA only,
    - EMA only,
    - TCMA only,
    - generall MA,
    - ...

    May be we should divide our subjects in such area so:

    - None WC guys should not get involve with WC threads.
    - None MMA guys should not get involve with MMA threads.
    - None Health and spiritual guys should not get involve with Health and spiritual threads.
    - None IMA guys should not get involve with IMA threads.
    - None EMA guys should not get involve with EMA threads.
    - None TCMA guys should not get involve with TCMA threads.
    - None general MA guys should not get involve with general MA threads.

    Will that work? I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenTigers View Post
    yeah, I know, it's like picking a scab, or that invisible splinter that you have to just keep on touching...
    Every time there is a discussion, there is always some troll that derails the thread.
    It's not so much their comments, but the fact that people start addressing them and then get pulled into their little drama.
    So let's simply agree that the next time one of these guys (I don't even know their handles..they're really not that important to me that they have a name) starts in, whether it is about dissing TCMA, or chi-sao, or TCM, or anything, just leave it, and continue with the thread.
    DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
    In the end, this is always the best policy.

    IME, most long-time CMAists have had experience, often extensive, in non-CMA arts. It's not as if the arguments about CMA's shortcomings (all arts have them!) are original.
    Last edited by Jimbo; 09-09-2012 at 04:36 PM.

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    ...I have TWO middle initials. H & W. I'll let y'all amuse yourselves by trying to figure out what that stands for.
    I'd say it's Hmith & Wesson!

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    the degradation of threads can get weird. and fast!

    fast and weird, that's how I like it....

    except for that one time..
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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