Fight like a snake

[sanjuro_ronin]

On Fight science:

Snake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK6Hn0cPcWg

[IronFist]

Cool show.

When I was younger, I thought snake style was the coolest of the five animals.

Praying Mantis was the coolest style but I didn't even know what it was before Virtual Fighter 2.



TBH though I don't think it makes any sense for humans to study animal fighting techniques. Humans are humans. Study human fighting techniques. Snake fighting is instinctive for a snake. Preying mantis fighting is instinctive for a preying mantis.

Boxing/kickboxing is instinctive fighting for a human. That's why untrained fighters "look like kickboxers" and why the best fighters in the world also look like kickboxers.

Animal styles are cool looking, though, and some of the forms can be a good workout.

Snake Deadly Act was one of my favorite kung fu movies. I own it on VHS. It cracks me up how the English subtitles are different from the English being spoken in the movie. The training scene beginning at 0:55:00 is pretty cool, too. That leg training device is nuts lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2pVUdT-pOA

[Lucas]

I study Neanderthal style.

[Syn7]

I study Neanderthal style.

They have the best blunt weapons! The hair pulling is part of their BB curriculum.

[RickMatz]

snake fail

[sanjuro_ronin]

Cool show.

When I was younger, I thought snake style was the coolest of the five animals.

Praying Mantis was the coolest style but I didn't even know what it was before Virtual Fighter 2.



TBH though I don't think it makes any sense for humans to study animal fighting techniques. Humans are humans. Study human fighting techniques. Snake fighting is instinctive for a snake. Preying mantis fighting is instinctive for a preying mantis.

Boxing/kickboxing is instinctive fighting for a human. That's why untrained fighters "look like kickboxers" and why the best fighters in the world also look like kickboxers.

Animal styles are cool looking, though, and some of the forms can be a good workout.

Snake Deadly Act was one of my favorite kung fu movies. I own it on VHS. It cracks me up how the English subtitles are different from the English being spoken in the movie. The training scene beginning at 0:55:00 is pretty cool, too. That leg training device is nuts lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2pVUdT-pOA

Kung fu movies always had the best training sequences !
The "animal based" systems weren't suppose to imitate the animal but to take the qualities of that animal that would carry over into the "fighting style".
IN the case of the snake - speed, relaxed spring power, pin-point accuracy.
The "snake fist" would be used after the hands were conditioned enough to be used and, typiclaly, used only on specialized techniques, namely the "finishers".
Think taking a guy out with , using a common point of reference, with a left hook to the liver and and over hand right and then finishing him with a "snake fist" to the throat/neck.

[Lucas]

I forget where but i read somewhere that old school snake practitioners would test their hands on big slabs of meat like a pig carcass or what not.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I forget where but i read somewhere that old school snake practitioners would test their hands on big slabs of meat like a pig carcass or what not.

Never met one, snake stylist that is, BUT have met a few Japanese and Okinanwan guys that had spear hands that would really F you up.
Uechi-ryu guys like Kinjo sensei are an example.
The movies give the idea that a guy is "punching" with his spearhand/snake fist, but in reality ( from what I have seen in practical terms), like any specialty fist, it is used at the "right time on the right place".

[Lucas]

seems like a quick way to be able to 'finish' someone when you dont have a weapon and you have already incapacitated them. roadhouse style.

[TenTigers]

Never met one, snake stylist that is, .

yeah you have. If you've met any of Lam Sang's SPM guys who trained with the old man, Mark Foon, Chun Ho Dun, and a select few others who stay well under the radar.
Lam's SPM is very snake-like. In its movements (coiling, spiraling, quick, evasive, cruel) and in its mindset(cold-blooded, aggressive, yet calm and focused).
Chung Yel Jung was called the Poison Snake. The weapons are referred to as Poison Snake staff, spear. The knives are called snakes as well as the hands.
Mark my words, the truth will come out.
We're snakes.

[IronFist]

Kung fu movies always had the best training sequences !

Heck yeah!

I have a movie called "Dragon's Claws" (I think that's the name) and in the movie, one of the guys trains with these golden bowling ball things that have finger holes cut in them and he puts his hands in them and does forms/upper body techniques/etc and I remember watching that and thinking "that's so awesome!" A few times I almost considered getting two bowling balls with 5 finger holes cut in them so I could train that way myself.

Good thing I didn't, though. It wouldn't have done much. But it would've been cool

The "animal based" systems weren't suppose to imitate the animal but to take the qualities of that animal that would carry over into the "fighting style".
IN the case of the snake - speed, relaxed spring power, pin-point accuracy.

Yeah, I guess. But really you can apply that to every style. What style doesn't use speed? What style doesn't encourage you to be relaxed? Etc. And pin-point accuracy goes out the window when you have an adrenaline dump.

The "snake fist" would be used after the hands were conditioned enough to be used and, typiclaly, used only on specialized techniques, namely the "finishers".
Think taking a guy out with , using a common point of reference, with a left hook to the liver and and over hand right and then finishing him with a "snake fist" to the throat/neck.

Fair enough.

[ginosifu]

The "animal based" systems weren't suppose to imitate the animal but to take the qualities of that animal that would carry over into the "fighting style".
IN the case of the snake - speed, relaxed spring power, pin-point accuracy.

Yeah, I guess. But really you can apply that to every style. What style doesn't use speed? What style doesn't encourage you to be relaxed? Etc. And pin-point accuracy goes out the window when you have an adrenaline dump.

Let me say that I agree with you to a point, that all systems use speed, power, skill etc.

The difference between animal styles is what makes each style unique.

Tiger style: Aggressive, attacking with hard blocks and claws. Going straight to the throat with strikes or claws.

Snake style: Patient, waiting for submissions thru coiling and smothering. Similar to MMA ground work.

Monkey style: Sneaky, using feints and elusive footwork, jumping around waiting for you to fall for one of his antics.

The above animal styles are my own interpretations. Even though they all will need speed and power.... thet all have different methods that make them each a different way to fight as though an animal.

ginosifu

[sanjuro_ronin]

As I have point out on a few threads, there is something to be said about an "a typical" fighting style, something that brings something different to the table, much like BJJ did in the early days of vale tudo and the UFC.
That said, you still have to make it work.