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    Benefits of Bow Stance Training

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    Hey, I closed because, to be honest, the argument is done since everyone had stated their view and cited their sources. The rest would be a "****" measuring contest".

    As for this thread.
    It can be argued that the bow stance ( front stance) has MORE benefit than the horse stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Hey, I closed because, to be honest, the argument is done since everyone had stated their view and cited their sources. The rest would be a "****" measuring contest".

    As for this thread.
    It can be argued that the bow stance ( front stance) has MORE benefit than the horse stance.
    lol ya i agree it was pretty dead a few pages back.

    I do actually agree with you though. Bow stance is a huge benefit. But isnt it better to do something like lunges or mountain climbers rather than static bow stance training?

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    The bow-arrow stance can be harder to do than you may think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    It can be argued that the bow stance ( front stance) has MORE benefit than the horse stance.
    The

    - horse stance,
    - bow-arrow stance, and
    - golden rooster stance

    are the 3 major building blocks for the Chinese throwing art. It's hard to say which one is more important than the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    lol ya i agree it was pretty dead a few pages back.

    I do actually agree with you though. Bow stance is a huge benefit. But isnt it better to do something like lunges or mountain climbers rather than static bow stance training?

    Sure, dynamic exercises are "better" than static, most would agree on this since, especially MA wise, we are dynamic creatures.
    Fighting is dynamic not static and MA is about fighting primarily.
    A low bow stance will give your hips, quads, hams and glutes a better workout than a horse stance. It requires more strength, balance and stabilizers.
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    i like the bow stance for throws and sweeps

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    The bow-arrow stance can be harder to do than you may think.

    http://imageshack.us/a/img573/7109/necksurrounding.jpg

    http://imageshack.us/a/img860/580/oldpic211.jpg


    The

    - horse stance,
    - bow-arrow stance, and
    - golden rooster stance

    are the 3 major building blocks for the Chinese throwing art. It's hard to say which one is more important than the other.
    They compliment each other, there is no "better" one per say, the right tool for the job right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    The bow-arrow stance can be harder to do than you may think.

    http://imageshack.us/a/img573/7109/necksurrounding.jpg

    http://imageshack.us/a/img860/580/oldpic211.jpg


    The

    - horse stance,
    - bow-arrow stance, and
    - golden rooster stance

    are the 3 major building blocks for the Chinese throwing art. It's hard to say which one is more important than the other.
    what do you think about empty stance / xu bu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    what do you think about empty stance / xu bu
    The empty stance is used during the "initial" stage before you use your leading leg to attack your opponent. The horse stance, bow-arrow stance, and golden rooster stance are used at the "end" of your attack.
    Last edited by YouKnowWho; 10-02-2012 at 12:50 PM.
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    So is the Bow stance different than Choy Lee Fut's Din Ji Ma? or as we term it "T HORSE'?

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    As long as your front leg bends like a bow and your back leg straights like an arrow, it's called bow-arrow stance. You front foot can turn 45 degree inward (longfist), straight (Taiji), or outward (SC), depend on your application.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    As long as your front leg bends like a bow and your back leg straights like an arrow, it's called bow-arrow stance. You front foot can turn 45 degree inward (longfist), straight (Taiji), or outward (SC), depend on your application.
    In black tiger, bow and arrow stance has a continuous 45 degree angle extending from the back foot ankle through to the shoulder. The body is not upright, but straight aligned to the back leg on the ground. Front leg quad is parallel to the ground and shin is perpendicular with knee not going over toe. Hung style is similar, but back is straight in stance training, but like this in some attacks that are found in the style such as cradle blows whilst stepping and pushing.

    like this:
    Last edited by David Jamieson; 10-12-2012 at 08:33 AM.
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