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    Quote Originally Posted by pazman View Post

    These days, a proper term for a kung fu teacher would be jiaolian, or "coach".
    We need to adopt this. All this pretentious teacher worship is for the birds. We are just gloried P.E. teachers. The way people attach "Wu De" to everything to justify this is just as ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebaufist View Post
    We need to adopt this. All this pretentious teacher worship is for the birds. We are just gloried P.E. teachers. The way people attach "Wu De" to everything to justify this is just as ridiculous.
    The use of shifu is warrented in some cases, but certainly not by a kung fu teacher running a commercial school in the US. Demanding the use of it by Chinese coaches in the US shows a grave misunderstanding and disrespect of their host country.

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    Speak for yourself.

    I learned the old way and teach under the Journeyman/Apprentice model. On any given day I may be asked about one or more of these things:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Arms View Post
    Speak for yourself.

    I learned the old way and teach under the Journeyman/Apprentice model. On any given day I may be asked about one or more of these things:

    • Nutrition
    • Meditation
    • Use of herbal formulas
    • Different methods for different body types
    • Fighting
    • Self control, mindset and ethics
    • Physiology
    • Recovery and treatment of injury as well as injury prevention
    • History as relates to our system and material
    • etc.
    Your disciple/apprentices should call you Master. But if you think anybody else should call you Master, you will be very disappointed.

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    My Mom even calls me Sifu.....
    actually, no. It's, Mister Sifu.
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
    Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"

    "I will not be part of the generation
    that killed Kung-Fu."

    ....step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenTigers View Post
    My Mom even calls me Sifu.....
    actually, no. It's, Mister Sifu.
    Mister Sifu is permissible. As is Celestial Master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0NiN View Post
    Can someone please tell me what these titles mean.

    Sifu

    SiGung

    SiSuk

    Sibok

    and if there is any more Chinese instructor titles, please tell me what they are and what they mean, Thanks!
    1. SiFu= Teacher/Father
    2. SiGung = Teacher/Grandfather (sifu's teacher)
    3. SiSuk = Sifu's (yours) junior classmate
    4. SiBak = Sifu's (yours) senior classmate
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Suk and bak are aunt and uncle.

    Its still a pretense. You can call yourself what you want but the amount of weight given to every Tom , dic and harry with a school is a burden. Some of these guys act like they are kwan kune or something.
    Last edited by Lebaufist; 11-29-2012 at 05:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdhowland View Post
    You're right. He did mention Germanic. I was just taking opposition to this statement:



    I'm too lazy to look up the numbers but I think the is an overstatement if you include the other language families of Europe. And some people do seem to have the idea that Latin is somehow older than English or that we have a Latin-based syntax.

    Still fighting the Normans here, even if they are my ancestors now.

    I love tangents.
    Just stumbled onto this..."pure Germanic English" essay on atomic theory :

    https://groups.google.com/forum/?fro...0/_7p8bKwLJWkJ

    Just a bit of the opening:
    The following item shows what English would look like if it
    were purged of its non-Germanic words, and used German-style
    compounds instead of borrowings to express new concepts.
    This recently appeared in the Conlang mailing list.

    =====cut here=====

    Here is Poul Anderson's essay "Uncleftish Beholding" ("Atomic
    Theory"), reprinted from the revised edition appearing in his
    collection _All One Universe_.


    For most of its being, mankind did not know what things are made
    of, but could only guess. With the growth of worldken, we began
    to learn, and today we have a beholding of stuff and work that
    watching bears out, both in the workstead and in daily life.

    The underlying kinds of stuff are the *firststuffs*, which link
    together in sundry ways to give rise to the rest. Formerly we
    knew of ninety-two firststuffs, from waterstuff, the lightest and
    barest, to ymirstuff, the heaviest. Now we have made more, such
    as aegirstuff and helstuff....
    From the Vsauce on English (really worth watching. I'm totally addicted to Vsauce these days )

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atI-JPGcF-k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebaufist View Post
    Suk and bak are aunt and uncle.
    Suk is your father's younger brother. Bak is your father's older brother.

    In kung fu terms, junior and senior classmates of your teacher. Your teacher's kung fu brothers.

    So Si Suk and Si Bak are the younger kung fu uncle, and the older kung fu uncle.
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebaufist View Post
    Suk and bak are aunt and uncle.
    Goo ma and goo je are older and younger aunts on your father's side.

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