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    Kung Fu (Hung) Concepts Basic Entries, Grabs & Misc

    What's up Guys...

    I decided to do some more detailed work explaning how Hung Kyun can adapt and apply. They are supposed to be viewed in order Hung Gar Concepts #1 - 5... the details might make more sense in this regard.

    Nobody else from the Hung Gar community has realy come forth and given out this type of information yet. Mostly it's been forms or foundation training. Why? Because in truth, most of the schools I see out there DO NOT know how to apply their bridging concepts on NON traditional people. So they end up training forms but fighting like Kick Boxers. This is a shame in my opinion.

    Do they cover everything? No of course not, these are just some simple concepts

    If you like it great! If not, well you can't please everyone. I know what works for me and I've got the experience to make it work.

    So if you want to, please visit My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Subitai

    P.S. It would be nice if someone else were to step up and try to "Up the Ante" on this and keep this going by making MORE VIDS with even better details about HUNG...kinda like what the Wing Chun guys do.
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    "O"..."Some people believe that you need to make another human being tap out to be a valid art. But I am constantly reminding them that I only have to defend myself and keep you from hurting me in order to Win."
    "O"..."The Hung Style practiced solely in methods of Antiquity would ultimately only be useful versus Similar skill sets"

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    Why? Because in truth, most of the schools I see out there DO NOT know how to apply their bridging concepts on NON traditional people. So they end up training forms but fighting like Kick Boxers. This is a shame in my opinion.
    no one fights like what you say. fighting isn't as slow or organized like traditional kung fu. you must know how to do this and not be tied down by tradition.

    it is more important to know to fight using the gung fu, no one said you have to act like a movie to fight. the old masters you see in video's dont fight like this. they looks terribles.

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    i'm seein lots of similarities in our hsclf.
    Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
    when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
    Bruh we thought you knew better
    when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snipsky View Post
    no one fights like what you say. fighting isn't as slow or organized like traditional kung fu. you must know how to do this and not be tied down by tradition.

    it is more important to know to fight using the gung fu, no one said you have to act like a movie to fight. the old masters you see in video's dont fight like this. they looks terribles.
    I think it must be a misunderstanding... Snipsky, I NEVER SAID fighting was slow or needed to look like a movie to fight. In fact, what i'm showing is exactly some simple concepts on how to bridge and fight using kung fu. I explain a few details as to how to enter and make it work. NO, not all of them but enough to understand...

    Fighters will know exactly what i'm talking about. People who only do forms and talk allot will be the only ones to give negative comments. But i've expected that will happen.
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    "O"..."The Hung Style practiced solely in methods of Antiquity would ultimately only be useful versus Similar skill sets"

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    I think it must be a misunderstanding... Snipsky, I NEVER SAID fighting was slow or needed to look like a movie to fight. In fact, what i'm showing is exactly some simple concepts on how to bridge and fight using kung fu. I explain a few details as to how to enter and make it work. NO, not all of them but enough to understand...

    Fighters will know exactly what i'm talking about. People who only do forms and talk allot will be the only ones to give negative comments. But i've expected that will happen.
    don't worry bro. its not all lost on everyone.
    Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
    when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
    Bruh we thought you knew better
    when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better

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    Many Thanks sharing Subitai.
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    Great stuff Subitai. Some overlap with how I teach (which was cool to see). I really like that you have some common sense worked into how you are approaching entering (the pak/check to sau choi) was one I don't usually teach to lead in with but liked the look of.

    A common one for us might be right foot to right foot lead, back hand check their lead hand, lead hand gua chi or back fist. If they try to stop the backfist with their rear hand, so sau/kiu sau that hand across them with my rear hand, rotate into side horse and yut ji choi/vertical fist to middle or lower level, then use the rear hand to fu jow or punch to the head level. If they dont stop the back fist and get hit, you just start rushing them attacking between the various levels.
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    Great stuff there Onasis. Always good stuuf comin from my kung fu brother.... keep up the good work.

    ginosifu

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    hskwarrior..

    Hey Golden Arms...Of course you'd see all that, haha we study the same style.

    Quote Originally Posted by ginosifu View Post
    Great stuff there Onasis. Always good stuuf comin from my kung fu brother.... keep up the good work.

    ginosifu

    Gino Thanks, and sorry to call this out but technically I'm your uncle not your brother... since family wise I learned directly from your grandteacher . It's family respect, when I talk to Gene I try to always call him Si Hing, not because he demands it. But because I have respect for all the years he studied with Sifu. Just sayin' you know?
    It's not a bad thing mind you..Which technically means that If I ever came out to visit your school...i'd be obligated to make sure I teach you even better than outsiders. As in my personal repetoire.

    But yes in kung fu spirit...thanks bro!

    "O"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subitai View Post
    hskwarrior..

    Hey Golden Arms...Of course you'd see all that, haha we study the same style.




    Gino Thanks, and sorry to call this out but technically I'm your uncle not your brother... since family wise I learned directly from your grandteacher . It's family respect, when I talk to Gene I try to always call him Si Hing, not because he damands it. But because I have respect for all the years he studied with Sifu. Just sayin' you know?
    It's not a bad thing mind you..Which technically means that If I ever came out to visit your school...i'd be obligated to make sure I teach you even better than outsiders. As in my personal repetoire.

    But yes in kung fu spirit...thanks bro!

    "O"
    Yes Sibok..... no pun intended.... still I liked your interpretations of the movements.

    ginosifu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subitai View Post

    Hey Golden Arms...Of course you'd see all that, haha we study the same style.

    "O"
    Subitai,

    It would be neat to cross paths one day, I spend a lot of my time working Pak Mei nowadays, but I will always have love and respect for Hung Gar, its truly no nonsense and functional.
    -Golden Arms-

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    Yeah Golden... mabe we could meet up half way in Brother Gino's Area...He throws a good tourney.


    Or I could take a phrase outta Dale's patented response book..."My door is always open". hahaha.

    *** Just kidding you Dale. ( I saw another guy joke on you about that phrase)

    Let me know if you're ever on the east coast.

    Yum Cha
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    That's some good stuff there 'O'. A couple of things i liked, mentioning the thumbless grip to extend the oppenents arm. And the opponents shoulders....one forward then the other must be further back.

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    Here's a new one:

    Traditional Hung Gar Skills 1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dqhe-fVsL4



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    "O"..."The Hung Style practiced solely in methods of Antiquity would ultimately only be useful versus Similar skill sets"

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVMxxZJnPz0

    At 4.29, did you use the word "崩(Beng) - Cracking"? I haven't heard this term used in many TCMA styles for a long time. In this clip, I also like your "against 1 finger vs. against 4 fingers" principle. We use "against 4 fingers" for grip strength development. We use "against 1 finger" in application. Also, your downward approach at 3.15. Most people will turn against the thumb and open himself up (it's a trap).

    Excellent clips. Thanks for sharing.
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