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    CLF forms with multiple roads

    Hey Team,

    About CLF forms;

    (Forgive my Mandarin terminology, I don't know the cantonese)

    I hear that some forms like MeiHua (Plum Blossom) and BaGuaQuan (8 Trigrams) have multiple roads in CLF. I.e Part 1, 2, 3 etc. But I rarely get to see them.

    Does anyone here practice one form in its complete state, as in all roads of MeiHua for example? Any Videos?

    What other forms have multiple roads?

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    Not actually correct...there are different versions of Plum Flower (moi fah) but that is generally due to lineages. As far as the CLF bagua forms there are 9 different forms each with a different name:

    Dai bagua kuen
    Siu bagua kuen
    Yee Jong bagua kuen
    Da ting bagua kuen
    Hung yan bagua kuen
    Da fu bagua kuen
    Moi fah bagua kuen
    Baat gwa sum kuen

    The first 8 represent each of the 8 triagrams and the last is the center (baat gwa sum or heart of bagua).

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    I hear that some forms like MeiHua (Plum Blossom) and BaGuaQuan (8 Trigrams) have multiple roads in CLF. I.e Part 1, 2, 3 etc. But I rarely get to see them.
    not sure about that. my lineage doesn't practice the Plum Blossom stuff or bagua kuen. but we have full forms, and short versions of the full form.
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    Dai bagua kuen
    Siu bagua kuen
    Yee Jong bagua kuen
    Da ting bagua kuen
    Hung yan bagua kuen
    Da fu bagua kuen
    Moi fah bagua kuen
    Baat gwa sum kuen

    The first 8 represent each of the 8 triagrams and the last is the center (baat gwa sum or heart of bagua).
    according to EJ there: Lung Ying Baat Kwa Kuen is the 9th one
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    No lung ying bagua is a different form outside the 9 bagua sets.

    The one I left out was Ng Ying Bagua Kuen (5-Animal Bagua).

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    Ng Ying Bagua Kuen (5-Animal Bagua)
    that is the true name of our 5 animal form
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    Quote Originally Posted by hskwarrior View Post
    that is the true name of our 5 animal form
    Uh oh Frank we don't want to open that can of worms...could there be a connection after all 😄. Just kidding

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    lololol....................
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    Thanks for the replies!

    Any more forms have multiple roads? Luohan Quan, Jingang Quan, Tiger, Leopard?

    If it is multiple roads because of different lineages then that is not so interesting... But multiple roads like a sequence of forms, that would be interesting.

    Also with the 9 BaGua forms, do people practice them all together? Are they a logical progression?

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    my HSCLF lineage doesn't have too many forms. a good amount compared to others, but ours are designed not to repeat.

    If it is multiple roads because of different lineages then that is not so interesting... But multiple roads like a sequence of forms, that would be interesting.
    yeah, CLF may share the same names of forms but the material is all different. we have three different types of ping Kuen
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    Cool

    Never heard of them being done together and CLF doesn't have roads the way northern styles do.

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    the "multiple roads" terminology confuses me since its not used in our style.

    does this mean multiple versions? is that of sets? or something like various versions of panther, tiger, crane, snake, dragon....etc?????
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    Roads are seperate sections that can be learned independent then linked together for a full form later. In shaolin they have dahong yilu, erlu, sanlu etc. CLF doesn't really have that in the sense of a northern style but it has "large and small" versions of forms. We have for instance siu kau da kuen and dai kau da kuen. The idea is similar to xiao hong quan and dahong quan
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    Roads are seperate sections that can be learned independent then linked together for a full form later.
    ahhh i got you. right on. Our schools Sup Ji Kau Da is that way, borken down into 3 sections that can all be perormed independantly or in the whole. So I guess it would have 3 roads then by what you're saying.
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    The small and big versions are typically for demo versions and are more less cut down versions with dai or big typically just the original form. For example we have Siu ping kuen which is just a short version of ping kuen or what some call dai ping kuen.

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