Analogue for Human head

[RenDaHai]

Hey Team;

Ever noticed how you can punch a heavy bag much harder when your wrists are wrapped and your hands gloved?

This disturbs me sometimes, because were I to punch the same power without the gloves and wraps against a human skull, my hands would not last long.


I want to construct a good analogue of the human head that I can punch to gauge how much power I should be using and improve the angle of my punches...


I figure a good place to start is a 5Kg Bowling ball with a rubber mat wrapped over it.

4.5-5Kg is about the Mass of the human head.... a Bowling ball is about the right size and shape (curved surface is important).

But what about hardness... I can't really get my head around it.

Anyone understand how hardness works?

ANyone else have a good analogue?

Gene, could Tiger claw make a punchable head? Like a head with a skull that you can put your hand inside and hold up like a punching pad for your opponent to punch, but as hard and heavy as a real face?

I think at least a head shaped punching pad would be a great idea.....

[PalmStriker]

Ever see what a hand looks like after the mend (back of hand, fanned out) from straight punch breakage. Breaking a hand while in combat mode is not a pretty picture. Best reason I use hammer-fist only.

[ginosifu]

If your hands hurt while making fists, why not just slap using open hand. It reduces the risk of injury.

ginosifu

[Kellen Bassette]

I think this is why the willow leaf palm is so prevalent in Songshan, much less chance of breakage.

[Syn7]

Ever see what a hand looks like after the mend (back of hand, fanned out) from straight punch breakage. Breaking a hand while in combat mode is not a pretty picture. Best reason I use hammer-fist only.

You don't find that too limiting?


Makes me think of Mark Coleman GnP when his hands were busted up. Funny to watch.

[PalmStriker]

You don't find that too limiting?


Makes me think of Mark Coleman GnP when his hands were busted up. Funny to watch.

Never practice a straight punch, would'nt know what limited felt like. Avoiding hand breakage and reflexive offensive blocking is second nature. What your enemy perceives as a target should have transformed by the time a strike reaches you.

[Syn7]

Never practice a straight punch, would'nt know what limited felt like. Avoiding hand breakage and reflexive offensive blocking is second nature. What your enemy perceives as a target should have transformed by the time a strike reaches you.

I dunno, I don't feel like my hammer hand is stronger than my fist. A palm, maybe, but not hammer hand. But then maybe that is just reflective of my own priorities.

[PalmStriker]

I dunno, I don't feel like my hammer hand is stronger than my fist. A palm, maybe, but not hammer hand. But then maybe that is just reflective of my own priorities.

You think someone using a moniker like "PalmStriker" would not have favorite techniques?

[Faruq]

Ever see what a hand looks like after the mend (back of hand, fanned out) from straight punch breakage.

Maybe I can find it on youtube. If you find it first please post the link.

[Syn7]

Just use the heads of your enemies! Cut em off and go nuts.



Maybe you can cut a melon in half, hollow out the inner area and slip a bowling ball in that. Keep in mind that a bowling ball is not a very good representation of a human skull, it's WAY off. If you really wanna keep it real and keep it cheap, get pig heads or something. Maybe a melon outside of really dense paper mache?

There are hi tech solutions that are rather costly. But I'm sure with a lil thought you can come up with many cheap alternatives that are close enough.

You can buy mock heads online. The stuff you see on deadliest warrior. Not cheap.

[Kellen Bassette]

Just use the heads of your enemies! Cut em off and go nuts.

That's kind of messed up Syn...you need to give them a warrior's burial. After your done posting them on a stake to warn others, of course.

Maybe next time I'm in Thailand I'll use some monkey heads, seems more civilized.

[Syn7]

Fukc it, they step up, they can rot. Tie it to a rope and hit it until it smells too bad or falls off on it's own.



In all honesty, I really couldn't care less about what happens to my body once I'm done with it. As long as I'm not taking up valuable space in some cemetery, I don't really care. I'll prolly donate my body to science.

[RenDaHai]

Hey guys,

I do prefer the palm, I do.... And your right Kellen, Song Shan does favour the willow leaf. But I could use that on it too. I do remember one time though, in the heat of the moment, where I literally couldn't unclench my fists. Its strange I know. Must be a psychological thing. The hammers are a great idea palmstriker, SongShan likes them too.


@Syn, I realise the shape is off..... But it is at least curved and your hand slips off it in kind of the way it slips off a face. Not perfect but its fairly cheap..... Besides, most of the enemies heads I have have gone rotten.... smells out the gym.

I like the idea of the melon but its a bit messy.
Super dense paper Mache eh? I'll check it out.

[Syn7]

The shape isn't the issue, it's the density. Round is fine. Maybe a square with well rounded edges would be more appropriate, so you can simulate a jawline. Hang it from a corner rather than from the center of one side. Maybe simulate some of the sharper edges along the lower half of the skull. Just a thought.

[EarthDragon]

stop punching the hardest part of the human body with your hands, look to hit the softer areas, the back of the jaw, nose, philitrum , side of the neck etc etc, never ever punch the skull your hands will always loose