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    Mantis wooden dummy?

    Hi all,

    So far I've seen wooden dummies(Muk Jong) for: Wing Chun, Choy Li Fut..and as of about a year ago..one for Hung Ga(Hung Kuen).

    Is there such a thing as Mantis Muk Jong? If so, how does it differ from say..the Wing Chun wooden dummy..thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaterthanNever View Post
    Hi all,

    So far I've seen wooden dummies(Muk Jong) for: Wing Chun, Choy Li Fut..and as of about a year ago..one for Hung Ga(Hung Kuen).

    Is there such a thing as Mantis Muk Jong? If so, how does it differ from say..the Wing Chun wooden dummy..thanks!

    LTN
    This is what we use:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mtFx...feature=relmfu

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJrJvPy5dOo
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    As a cheap but highly effective dummy arm only, I have a 2 piece cut broom stick wrapped in a towel then wrapped with duct tape the same size as a humerous and unlna/ radial bone complete with fist ball at the end and I use it for all mantis arm techniques and joint locks, it works suprising very well and it costs hardly nothing.
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    Robert Hui has an awesome wooden dummy set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yu shan View Post
    Robert Hui has an awesome wooden dummy set.
    Yeah, just saw his latest video
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    An article springs to mind from the "Mantis Quarterly" journal, in which Sifu Robert Hui talks about training with with the Taiji Mantis wooden dummy. Perhaps this might be of interest?

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    I have a frien who is looking for one, any sufggestions, and does anyone make them by hand cheaper than your typical crap
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    Quote Originally Posted by EarthDragon View Post
    I have a frien who is looking for one, any sufggestions, and does anyone make them by hand cheaper than your typical crap
    The best cheap version is to cut the body from PVC and just buy arms and the leg.

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    I have not seen any mantis dummy stuff that adds much to training.

    Instead of collecting more and more, people show make things more efficient. A wing chun dummy is handy for traiing when you don't have a partner but is not a replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T England View Post
    I have not seen any mantis dummy stuff that adds much to training.

    Instead of collecting more and more, people show make things more efficient. A wing chun dummy is handy for traiing when you don't have a partner but is not a replacement.

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    My tai mantis school doesn't use a mantis dummy for training which I always thought was kind of strange.. but never one to question my superiors I guess this comment answers why we don't use one
    So I'm unlucky today.. two will die for the price of one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mantiskickboxer View Post
    My tai mantis school doesn't use a mantis dummy for training which I always thought was kind of strange.. but never one to question my superiors I guess this comment answers why we don't use one
    You must not learn much by not asking questions.

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    We use our dummy primarily as a means of conditioning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fa Xing View Post
    You must not learn much by not asking questions.
    ^ It's funny how stupid people think that stupid questions don't exist
    So I'm unlucky today.. two will die for the price of one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mantiskickboxer View Post
    My tai mantis school doesn't use a mantis dummy for training which I always thought was kind of strange.. but never one to question my superiors I guess this comment answers why we don't use one
    As far as I know, the long fist schools don't use dummy for training either.
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    wooden dummy training is a southern thing, my guess is it was added into the system by the HK lineages, either Luo Guang Yu or Chu Chuk Kai after being exposed to southern styles

    As far as I know mainland lineages dont practice dummy at all. not saying its good or bad, just a regional thing

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