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    Wing chun videos, share please :)

    Here is a video of GM Ip Ching (GM Yip Man's youngest son) doing chi sau, is a good watch.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnHlLiYmVXA


    If you have a good wing chun video please post
    Last edited by hobbs; 11-28-2012 at 12:04 PM.

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    Looks terrible to me (imo) no structure just hand chasing at its best

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhalliwell View Post
    Looks terrible to me (imo) no structure just hand chasing at its best

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    That is what Chi Sao is, isn't it. Just hand chasing? In order to bridge and control ones hands you pretty much have to stay close to them, and that probably requires you to chase them now and then. It is a form of hand grappling really, and it is easier to do on someone that has no clue as to what the heck you are doing.

    As terrible as it might look, the big question here is, can you whip either one of them?
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    Chi Sao is intended to develop sensitivity to an opponent's movement in order to dial in reactions. One of the major aspects of Wing Chun is sensing your opponent's energy so that you can deflect or redirect it in order to create the opportunity for a strike. It looks like hand chasing because one participant makes a move and the other moves to counter it. The intent is not to actually strike your opponent but learn how to create and destroy opportunities.

    As to whipping either of them, well they wouldn't be using Chi Sao in a real altercation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chiang Po View Post
    That is what Chi Sao is, isn't it. Just hand chasing? In order to bridge and control ones hands you pretty much have to stay close to them, and that probably requires you to chase them now and then. It is a form of hand grappling really, and it is easier to do on someone that has no clue as to what the heck you are doing.

    As terrible as it might look, the big question here is, can you whip either one of them?
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    No imo chi sau is not chasing hands at all! I'm attacking the person not his hands (in training) there's no point looking for someones hands when I can actually exploit his center which in this example of chi sau both their centers are totally open!

    With regard to your comment about "can I whip either one of them" with regard to yip ching hes an old man what a crazy question. Regard to sam kwok yes in about 2 seconds if I had to!

    jim

    ps here is a link to a video showing chi sau and general Ving Tsun in action and as its supposed to be Simple Direct and Efficient! unlike the sam kwok video. Im not a student of Bayer at all just using it as an example of how its supposed to be done keeping it real!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6YVmNnuSIA
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    Hi, gotta agree with Jim on this clip.

    "Top level", ummmm....

    What happened to attack the body not the hands?

    Whats with all the "golden palming", using palm as bridge rather than forearm, not a good strategy imo.

    No wonder people from different arts look at these kind of clips and shake their heads...

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    Here is one of GM Wan Kam Leung

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM_KgCSMtMM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chiang Po View Post
    As terrible as it might look, the big question here is, can you whip either one of them?
    An even better question is are you putting yourself in a position to be a fight promoter between Internet posters and elderly men?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhalliwell View Post
    Looks terrible to me (imo) no structure just hand chasing at its best

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    how can you tell see if someone has structure or not since structure can look like anything or nothing and in some cases can be.
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    Jim Fung school of Sydney demo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtHwRrKbHk

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    Hi hobbs.. Ive see vids from your school. Good stuff . You guys have structure, but my point about structure is it cant be seen but can be felt. Some people think stucture is the way you hold a tan sao a certain way, but its not. Structure can look like anything. Because its noy in the way iy looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonecrusher69 View Post
    Hi hobbs.. Ive see vids from your school. Good stuff . You guys have structure, but my point about structure is it cant be seen but can be felt. Some people think stucture is the way you hold a tan sao a certain way, but its not. Structure can look like anything. Because its noy in the way iy looks.
    You can only feel nim lik not see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbs View Post
    Jim Fung school of Sydney demo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtHwRrKbHk
    Didn't like the knife defense or much of the gate changing going from outside gate to inside gate for no apparent reason than trying to look fast not for me imo. If i had the knife he would be cut to shreds to be honest. Still light years ahead of Sam kwok.

    Jim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbs View Post
    Jim Fung school of Sydney demo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtHwRrKbHk
    hilarious, one of the best laughs I've had in ages
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