Mook Jong and its uses

[Raipizo]

Obviously it was made for wing chun, do you guys from other styles use a wooden dummy to train, and if so how do you incorporate it into your training?

[bawang]

Obviously it was made for wing chun,

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[Raipizo]

Well whatever, anyway do you use one?

[bawang]

nope

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in northern kung fu its used to learn the counter punching angles

[Raipizo]

Oh that's cool. Wish I knew some then :P

[LFJ]

Obviously it was made for wing chun, do you guys from other styles use a wooden dummy to train, and if so how do you incorporate it into your training?

Are you only talking about the WC wooden dummy specifically?

There are other wooden dummies obviously not made for WC. Take the CLF dummy as an example. I'm not sure it would be of much use to a WC practitioner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IFrcaZCNd4

Then when one is not enough:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J9SkR5bxYQ

[Raipizo]

Well I guess I worded this strangely. I know there are different dummies for different styles jkd, clf. But more so I was just getting at what do you use yours for if you own one no matter what design.

[bawang]

Oh that's cool. Wish I knew some then :P

the northern version is used like a normal punching pole, except the wooden arm forces you to punch at an angle to develop good habits

northern dummy is used to train dodging and evasion

usually less elaborate versions just tie a twig to a sandbag

[Raipizo]

I'll tie a twig to you.

[LFJ]

Well I guess I worded this strangely. I know there are different dummies for different styles jkd, clf. But more so I was just getting at what do you use yours for if you own one no matter what design.

I just use the WC dummy. In the Wong Shun Leung method it is to train recovery reflexes from minor mistakes or disadvantageous positions one may find themselves in during the course of a clash with an opponent.

[Raipizo]

The clf idea of the pivoting arm seems better than stationary immobile ones.

[LFJ]

Depends on what you're trying to achieve with it. I wouldn't find much use with the CLF dummy. It requires techniques that would violate WC principles.

[Raipizo]

Can't you still use it for your trapping and stuff?

[LFJ]

The goal in WC as I've learned it is to hit the opponent, not to stick or trap or anything. The dummy can't be a chi-sau or trapping tool because you can't feel energy in a dummy and it doesn't respond. Besides if it's a CLF dummy I wouldn't know what to trap without losing WC structure. There are just two low arms, one high on a spring, and a leg.

[Raipizo]

Yeah I guess so :P