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  1. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
    To be honest, i only had a quick glance over it.

    Regarding a technical chat, i started a conversation with Jim ,regarding the Jim Fung clip ,about the difference in lineages and what they are trying to achieve....

    He didnt seem that interested so i figure he's of the opinion that his way is the best, and only, way. Fair enough

    Look, you guys think your way is THE way, and putting up random clips from youtube which you then deride deserves what you get.... the pi55 taken out of you.
    look, then let us know, not interested in ''nuthugger avengers" views.

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    http://youtu.be/eJDTgYDWnlM some seung ma toi ma

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    look, then let us know, not interested in ''nuthugger avengers" views.
    And whos nuts exactly would i be hugging????

  4. #19
    Here's a contribution for worst chi sao of the year award...
    the claim is as follows

    "It's complicated to explain to u (long story). I'll put it in simple way: What you're seeing now, is the kind of techniques that you would probably see during the first 100 years when Wing Chun was created & compiled by the founders. If the founders were here seeing the Wing Chun in the marketplace, they would probably ask you 'what are these guys doing?' too. Btw, there is Bong Sau, it's just that they are too fast & subtle to notice. You need to pause the video rapidly to see their actions."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLgln71N9_g

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbtWCiMUVCs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSYOqFiNc2g

    the whole channel is a real doozy....oh and they do teach by correspondence if you are interested
    Last edited by Badnews; 12-13-2012 at 07:13 AM.

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    Argh, it hurts... Even Ali's chi-sau is a little better! A little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badnews View Post
    Here's a contribution for worst chi sao of the year award...
    the claim is as follows

    "It's complicated to explain to u (long story). I'll put it in simple way: What you're seeing now, is the kind of techniques that you would probably see during the first 100 years when Wing Chun was created & compiled by the founders. If the founders were here seeing the Wing Chun in the marketplace, they would probably ask you 'what are these guys doing?' too. Btw, there is Bong Sau, it's just that they are too fast & subtle to notice. You need to pause the video rapidly to see their actions."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLgln71N9_g

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbtWCiMUVCs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSYOqFiNc2g

    the whole channel is a real doozy....oh and they do teach by correspondence if you are interested
    The last clip just made me laugh out loud, thank you.

  7. #22
    If that one made you laugh, try these...thing is they are throwing out challenges to people as well it seems.

    "Punch dissolves punch"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giBz-C7o2oc


    Free Spar 2: Yong Chun Quan versus Mixed Art (Boxing + Muay Thai)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG_coNgflgk

    It's a beautiful thing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    http://youtu.be/eJDTgYDWnlM some seung ma toi ma
    I never did understand this double hop runaway while being pressed drill. To me, this trains some very bad habits and will could lead to they guy hopping around getting overrun and surely losing any fwd intent/energy he might have had toward his opponent.

    I can understand that if your space/structure is being collapsed, you may have to take a SINGLE step to regain your structure - but allowing someone to shove you around while double hopping backwards doesn't make much sense.
    If someone is pressing you and you haven't your lost your structure (as seen in the clip), most decent WC players should be able absorb or redirect the energy without too much issue (at least that's what we train for) - seems to be a lot more efficient to me than allowing yourself to get pushed around..
    Last edited by JPinAZ; 12-13-2012 at 08:46 AM.
    What chi sau is, or isn't, or is, or wait, what is it..: http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...2&postcount=90

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    The teui-ma is just that, a single step and change of the line. In the drill you may have the seung-ma partner continue to drive forward with the taan-sau while you drill the step and angle two or more times. Although in application you will be looking to strike right away off the new line from the first step.

  10. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
    So are you and Jim the self-appointed WC chi-sao police now??

    Actually, even better, why not become super heroe's!

    Wearing flowing capes ,with WSL printed across them, and masks in the likeness of Philip Bayer ,you could rid the world of the evils of poor chi-sao!!!

    I, for one, will feel safer knowing you guys are out there

    Glenn (hugger whatever your name is)

    Im not putting myself up as a wing chun police man, I'm just really frustrated by the downward spiral in the practical standard of wing chun / ving tsun generally. Wing Chun is a fighting system ie of a practical nature and due to the drop in standard of its quality has become a joke to the likes of the mma brigade. After 30 years of training I think i am able at least as much as you to make an educated guess after looking at a demo video on youtube as to the practical quality of the wing chun im seeing. Now I have studied 5 lineages 3 to completion Yip chuns Leung tings and wong shun leungs for me the wsl system works best (for me) yet still in this system i only really rate a few people the others to me are no good either too much theory not enough practicality! Now i have touched hands with PB and yes hes excellent example of Ving tsun and really is light years ahead of most on youtube and everywhere else come to that, but for me without doubt the best example of wsl ving tsun is from barry lee (imo) and imo the wsl system is way ahead on the practicality scale of any other Wing Chun linage around.

    cheers Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimhalliwell View Post
    imo the wsl system is way ahead on the practicality scale of any other Wing Chun linage around.
    Without meaning to bash other methods, I have to agree.

  12. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    Without meaning to bash other methods, I have to agree.
    To back my words up in a friendly way anyone who would like to try my interpretation of the wsl method for a free one on one session is welcome to call me 07912872821 i live near rochdale North west UK.I then at least can show you the differences without you paying for it.I at least back up what i say.

    Jim.
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    Um, thanks for the invite, but I said I agree. I'm with you on WSLVT.

  14. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    Um, thanks for the invite, but I said I agree. I'm with you on WSLVT.

    Sorry i quoted you actually meant anyone else

    Cheers

    Jim

  15. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by jimhalliwell View Post
    Glenn (hugger whatever your name is)

    Im not putting myself up as a wing chun police man, I'm just really frustrated by the downward spiral in the practical standard of wing chun / ving tsun generally. Wing Chun is a fighting system ie of a practical nature and due to the drop in standard of its quality has become a joke to the likes of the mma brigade. After 30 years of training I think i am able at least as much as you to make an educated guess after looking at a demo video on youtube as to the practical quality of the wing chun im seeing. Now I have studied 5 lineages 3 to completion Yip chuns Leung tings and wong shun leungs for me the wsl system works best (for me) yet still in this system i only really rate a few people the others to me are no good either too much theory not enough practicality! Now i have touched hands with PB and yes hes excellent example of Ving tsun and really is light years ahead of most on youtube and everywhere else come to that, but for me without doubt the best example of wsl ving tsun is from barry lee (imo) and imo the wsl system is way ahead on the practicality scale of any other Wing Chun linage around.

    cheers Jim
    Hi Jim, who did you learn from in the Ip Chun lineage? as you say about WSL lineage not everyone is the same / has the same approach even within a lineage so it would be interesting to hear.
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