F-35's

[Syn7]

Scrap metal or genius?

Can you really make a fighter that can do it all? Serve all arms of the military?

Some say it's the next sh1t, others say it's a failed attempt to build on a bad idea. For example, small wings let it launch vertically, yet limit it in maneuverability. Apparently this tit for tat trade off is affecting all aspects of the plane. Stealth what? I call bullsh1t on that one. Stealth my ass. Ask Bosnia how hard it is to shoot down a "stealth" plane!!!

And now the affordable price tag is up up up, so far. We'll see. Anyone up to date on this? I heard over 200 mill per unit. That is a base cost, not operational cost. OUCH!!!

You gotta wonder, with so many great nations backing this build, how bad could it be? On the other hand, we've seen worse. When people won't admit defeat they tend to waste even more time and money. We're better off with the CF-188 Hornets, lol. I feel like this is another cash grab at the expense of our economy and safety.

What's even worse, after the Canadian Gov was exposed in being shady and/or incompetent, they won't even talk about it. They spend YOUR money but won't even return a phone call about what they spent it on. I don't understand how this became acceptable? Who decided this was ok?

When Norway was thinking about going with the Swede plane, The US bullied them into going with the f-35. Wikileaks show us the threats made. It's all in the cables. And it says this tactic should be used against any country thinking of bailing on the program. Something is very wrong here. Good plane or not.

I think maybe the US is bullying nations to join the program so that they can scale back their own commitments to a failed idea. Make everyone else buy the mistake rather than owning up.


The Harper Gov promised a competition for the best plane for us, then all the sudden all is secret and we are locked in to this crap? After investors started freaking out and the plane started showing it wasn't working out, all the sudden Canada and Israel are on board? Why the rush? Why the lies? 65 planes for 9 billion and they said it was a total running cost. Turns out it was a base cost not counting anything but the plane itself. With weapons, gear, upkeep, infrastructure etc Harper papers say 16 billion. I think that is way low, but we'll see.

Also, why did they hide the statement of requirement if they have nothing to hide? And where is this cost guaruntee contract that Harper swears we have? That guy just str8 up lied, again.

Why do people just live with this? Drives me nutts. Those of us left to try on our own get stomped out for it while everyone else hides in their lil holes.