Straight punch vs. circular punch

[YouKnowWho]

In Chinese traditional weapon, the best way to deal with a spear stabbing is to use either clockwise circle or counter clockwise circle to redirect the straight line spear attack. As long as your opponent's spear head is not moving toward your chest, you don't care where it may go. Your spear just lead your opponent's spear "into the emptiness".

When your opponent uses jab or cross to punch at your head, your 45 degree downward "haymaker punch" can not only knock his punch out of his striking path, it may even knock his body off balance too. Even if your opponent may attack you first, your counter can reverse the situation 180 degree.

Is "straight punch" truly that effective? What's your opinion on this?

[Syn7]

In Chinese traditional weapon, the best way to deal with a spear stabbing is to use either clockwise circle or counter clockwise circle to redirect the straight line spear attack. As long as your opponent's spear head is not moving toward your chest, you don't care where it may go. Your spear just lead your opponent's spear "into the emptiness".

When your opponent uses jab or cross to punch at your head, your 45 degree downward "haymaker punch" can not only knock his punch out of his striking path, it may even knock his body off balance too. Even if your opponent may attack you first, your counter can reverse the situation 180 degree.

Is "straight punch" truly that effective? What's your opinion on this?

Typical boxing... Use the lead jab to range out and set up and circle outside the lead hand. If he's right handed, you step around his left to your right. Jab Jab Bang. It's like one of the first things you learn after the very basics Like how to stand and learn diff punches etc. And for the record, YKW, a good jab can do wonders for you. A stiff one can even KO your opponent. You can really pick people apart like that.

[hskwarrior]

Is "straight punch" truly that effective? What's your opinion on this?

since all have a time n place they are all effective. its also about how n when

[mooyingmantis]

Even if your opponent may attack you first, your counter can reverse the situation 180 degree.

It would be a very rare occasion in which a hook as a counter-punch could beat an unanticipated jab.

Any trained fighter should be able to throw two to three consecutive jabs in less than a second, which is much harder to do with hook punches.

And as Syn7 stated, a good jab can be all it takes to KO the enemy.

[Shaolin]

In Chinese traditional weapon, the best way to deal with a spear stabbing is to use either clockwise circle or counter clockwise circle to redirect the straight line spear attack.

There is no best way, all ways are opinionated and are not without flaws.

Is "straight punch" truly that effective? What's your opinion on this?

The straight is very effective. Here's some of the best.

http://youtu.be/IBnBcGst5CI

[Drake]

I am frequently attacked with spears.

[YouKnowWho]

The nice thing about haymaker punch is if you use stealing step and spin your body with it, you can move your body out of your opponent's striking path, your full body spinning can generate a lot of power to knock your opponent off balance. Not only you can connect it with head lock, if your opponent dodges under your haymaker punch, you can reverse it and get your opponent a reverse head lock (guillotine). This is the "water" strategy. You spin with your opponent's attack. To be able to spin your body along with your opponent's punch is a very important skill in the throwing art.

[Syn7]

Yeah but you can get KO'd that way if they follow along and beat you to it with a stiff jab which takes the piss out of your haymaker. I'm just sayin, it happens. Not that I don't love a nice wide looping punch. I like all the tools in my bag. Some I use more than others, but they are all useful at some point.

[Kellen Bassette]

Yeah but you can get KO'd that way if they follow along and beat you to it with a stiff jab which takes the piss out of your haymaker. I'm just sayin, it happens. Not that I don't love a nice wide looping punch. I like all the tools in my bag. Some I use more than others, but they are all useful at some point.

Yeah it can be pretty easy to just throw a jab when someone throws a haymaker..but if they start it with the back fist swinging with the opposite hand, (like you see in southern styles) it closes the gap and flows a lot better.

I always have the best luck landing jabs and a regular backfist...they just seem to be the easiest for me to connect with...I try to work a haymaker, (with technique), but I never feel like it has any strength when I throw it on the heavy bag, nothing like a clean hook. It may just be the angle doesn't lend itself well to hitting a regular heavy bag, (like with an upper cut), but it always leaves me feeling skeptical.

[mooyingmantis]

The nice thing about haymaker punch is if you use stealing step and spin your body with it, you can move your body out of your opponent's striking path, your full body spinning can generate a lot of power to knock your opponent off balance. Not only you can connect it with head lock, if your opponent dodges under your haymaker punch, you can reverse it and get your opponent a reverse head lock (guillotine). This is the "water" strategy. You spin with your opponent's attack. To be able to spin your body along with your opponent's punch is a very important skill in the throwing art.

This is a good strategy.

It works well against martial artists who have the habit of keeping their arm extended after a punch (a definite "no-no"), or grapplers who are reaching.

However, quick jabs from mature fighters do not lend themselves well to that type of strategy.

[Frost]

both are useful and both should be in your arsenal,

By and large hooks and overhands have more power and more ability to hurt of a single shot so in situations where you dont have the time to set things up in a nice combination: like a street fight or MMA fight where one side is looking to close the gap quickly hooks and overhands can be very useful

But they need setting up correctly and you need a tight guard when using them but dont all attacks lol

look at jim millers last ufc fight for a good example of how powerful hooks and overhands can destroy a straight puncher and really put you on the defensive

[Shaolin]

if your opponent dodges under your haymaker punch, you can reverse it and get your opponent a reverse head lock (guillotine).

I call b.s. This sounds like something out of a movie. If your opponent slips or bob and weave's your over hand you have no guillotine. There's not enough time for you to change the direction of your swing before your opponent either A. moves B. owns your kidney and liver or C. counters with a 3, 2 combination followed by a round kick to your nose

[Robinhood]

In Chinese traditional weapon, the best way to deal with a spear stabbing is to use either clockwise circle or counter clockwise circle to redirect the straight line spear attack. As long as your opponent's spear head is not moving toward your chest, you don't care where it may go. Your spear just lead your opponent's spear "into the emptiness".

When your opponent uses jab or cross to punch at your head, your 45 degree downward "haymaker punch" can not only knock his punch out of his striking path, it may even knock his body off balance too. Even if your opponent may attack you first, your counter can reverse the situation 180 degree.

Is "straight punch" truly that effective? What's your opinion on this?

You always seem to only talk about basic novice mechanics, their are so many variables of what makes something work or not work it is stupid to argue them, anything can work if one person is better at adjustment than the other person.

Have all the tools, and try to use the correct tool for the job.

[Bacon]

You always seem to only talk about basic novice mechanics, their are so many variables of what makes something work or not work it is stupid to argue them, anything can work if one person is better at adjustment than the other person.

Have all the tools, and try to use the correct tool for the job.

That and the ridiculous comparisons between things that have no relation. Spear fighting is not empty handed fighting. Blade fighting is not empty handed fighting. Each has their own special mechanics.

[Syn7]

You always seem to only talk about basic novice mechanics, their are so many variables of what makes something work or not work it is stupid to argue them, anything can work if one person is better at adjustment than the other person.

Have all the tools, and try to use the correct tool for the job.

I understand exactly what he's doing. He's been doing MA's for a long time. He has reached a point in his life where has started reverse engineering and reassessing basic mechanics on a deeper level.