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    The source of the 10,000 hour rule

    This paper, The Role of Deliberate Practice in the Acquisition of Expert Performance, is the source of the 10,000 rule.

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    Good article. Thanks for posting this.
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    Thank you for posting, great article.

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    false. only 300 to 500 reps is neccesary.

    its not how many times you do, its how familiar you are.

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    Many characteristics once believed to reflect innate talent are actually the result of intense practice extended for a minimum of 10 years.
    Just like the article, my TCMA instructor always said that it was a minimum of 10 years of hard practice to be proficient with Kung Fu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    false. only 300 to 500 reps is neccesary.

    its not how many times you do, its how familiar you are.
    I think this is probably true for single techniques. A few hundred times to get the basic structure down and a couple hundred more against a resisting partner should lead to some level of expertise.

    But RickMatz' post was regarding the source of an oft-repeated idea that it takes a certain number of years and repetitions of a constellation of skills to be proficient in an art form.

    I would say one to two years to be able to spar effectively. Ten to fifteen years to learn a system of kung fu.
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    For it breeds great perfection, if the practise be harder then the use. Sir Francis Bacon

    the world has a surplus of self centered sh1twh0res, so anyone who extends compassion to a stranger with sincerity is alright in my book. also people who fondle road kill. those guys is ok too. GunnedDownAtrocity

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    Something here to really think about. Any fighting art that requires 10 years to learn, or 10,000 hours to perfect, is something you need to pass up on. There are a few fighting arts that do not require a great deal of time to learn with great skill. Any technique that requires you to have great strength or youth to perform is a waste of time. Given that each day you age you are going to be less and less able to perform them. Eventually you will lose it all together. My system can be used as long as you can move about. I am 67 years old, and I can do it as well as I could when I was 21, and maybe even better on some things. I certainly have a better understanding of it all. I don't force myself to work out really hard in an effort to make myself stronger either. I simply do a daily workout that keeps me limber and toned up. I did all the muscle building as a young man, and only perform maintanence now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdhowland View Post
    I would say one to two years to be able to spar effectively. Ten to fifteen years to learn a system of kung fu.
    it takes 1 year to learn a system of kung fu. if you dont want to make any money.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Some skill will take far more than 500 reps to develop it. The "twist and spring" throw requires 3 different forces,
    its hard to learn because its a flowery technique. it looks good for the crowd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    false. only 300 to 500 reps is neccesary.
    Some skill will take far more than 500 reps to develop it. The "twist and spring" throw requires 3 different forces,

    1. straight line spring,
    2. circular twisting, and
    3. downward pullling.

    In the following clip, the instructor only mentioned the 1st and 2nd forces. The 3rd force was not mentioned.

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDkyMTI1Mjg4.html

    For the 1st 500 reps, you may not even be able to learn how to integrate all 3 forces yet.

    Some techniques are easy to learn. Some techniques are not.
    Last edited by YouKnowWho; 01-28-2013 at 01:34 PM.
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