to get a different subject on here whats the most important thing to you about learning your art?
what did you start
why did you stay
what part do you like about it
what parts dont you like
Shifu
to get a different subject on here whats the most important thing to you about learning your art?
what did you start
why did you stay
what part do you like about it
what parts dont you like
KUNG FU USA
www.eightstepkungfu.com
Teaching traditional Ba Bu Tang Lang (Eight Step Praying Mantis)
Jin Gon Tzu Li Gung (Medical) Qigong
Wu style Taiji Chuan
Teacher always told his students, "You need to have Wude, patient, tolerance, humble, ..." When he died, his last words to his students was, "Remember that the true meaning of TCMA is fierce, poison, and kill."
Itinerant practitioner
1. I started with tcma in my youth.
2. I enjoyed it, I stayed because I was enjoying doing it.
3. I like the abilities acquired and I like when the training pays off and shows.
4. I don't like the face games in tcma and the political or personal deceptions are low.
Kung Fu is good for you.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
TCMA, Kung Kuen.what did you start
DIdn't, because of moving to a different country ended up doing karate, judo, boxing and wrestling, then moved back to Canada and did TKD, kenjutsu, Judo and FMA.why did you stay
Finally came back to TCMA with WC, then returned to Hung Kuen and also SPM.
The specialty kungs and forms.what part do you like about it
The BS that is propagated by those that have little to no practical experience fighting trained fighters.what parts dont you like
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
凸 囧 凸
cocaineOriginally Posted by EarthDragon
I can stop anytime I want
(. Y .)
what did you start
The original Karate Kid movie, in elementary school, the idea of doing karate was fascinating.
why did you stay
Didn't, the instructor had to move away. A few years later, a friend told me about an amazing old man teaching some cool "karate" stuff. I went to see for myself and was amazed when I first watched 7* Praying Mantis Kung Fu. Stayed until I had to move about a decade later. Somewhere in that mix I saw UFC 1. Couldn't find BJJ and knew I had to cross train to keep it real, so I chose the next best option for ground fighting - Judo. Ironically it's the big throws that keeps me in that art.
what part do you like about it
Friendships that I've built through the years.
what parts dont you like
The constant in flow of newbies that have you reteaching the same ol' all the time. and veterans that are afraid to spar... and Higher than Thou attitudes.
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what did you start
American Karate
why did you stay
Made it to blue belt then moved away. Took about ten years before I found Aikido which tne moved to Jui Jitsu / Judo / Kenjutsu / and finally Wah Lum and Batto Do. As you can see there was an odd progression but I had the martial bug. I stayed with the judo / jui jitsu for 10 years, achieved instructor rank then the school closed down and work ramped up, children were born etc. Now I study Wah Lum and Batto do.
what part do you like about it
The friendships that I've built through the years, learning and teaching.
what parts dont you like
MightyB, you and I think alike!
The constant in flux of newbies that have you reteaching the same ole all the time, and veterans that are afraid to spar... and Higher than Thou attitudes!
Shifu
Do you guys feel the need to leave your art or style to fill in gaps or holes that your style doesn't fulfill?
KUNG FU USA
www.eightstepkungfu.com
Teaching traditional Ba Bu Tang Lang (Eight Step Praying Mantis)
Jin Gon Tzu Li Gung (Medical) Qigong
Wu style Taiji Chuan
Teacher always told his students, "You need to have Wude, patient, tolerance, humble, ..." When he died, his last words to his students was, "Remember that the true meaning of TCMA is fierce, poison, and kill."
User (in rehab)
In my case it's not a matter of leaving one art to find another that fills in the gaps but enlarging upon one through experience in others. For example, my jujitsu training has good ground work and submission techniques but the movements are based on grappling with little attention to strikes and a stylistic concern for safety. My cma has strikes, grappling, throws and even a little ground work but is not readily applicable to extended grappling on the ground. Given a choice I would stick with the cma because it is more inclusive and has better transitions among the various skills. Adding the ground work from jj to my base is easier than trying to add boxing and weapons skills to the jujitsu.
"Look, I'm only doing me job. I have to show you how to defend yourself against fresh fruit."
For it breeds great perfection, if the practise be harder then the use. Sir Francis Bacon
the world has a surplus of self centered sh1twh0res, so anyone who extends compassion to a stranger with sincerity is alright in my book. also people who fondle road kill. those guys is ok too. GunnedDownAtrocity
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Even if I hadn't of left because of re-location I probably would have cross trained no matter what.
If combat effectiveness is paramount in one MA training then cross training ( or at least cross-testing) is crucial, indispensable really.
EX:
Judo has ground work but nothing to the degree of BJJ.
Hung Kuen had some edged weapon work but nothing to the degree of the FMA.
And so forth.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Registered User
what did you start
I'm not sure if I started taekwondo as a kid before or after the karate kid movie, but it was pretty close to then. I did this until I was 18 and moved to university.
why did you stay?
I didn't. In university, I was introduced to TCMA (7stars mantis) through the university wushu club. It was fun and interesting. That experience was good. After the teacher left, I tried several other TCMA schools but found the intensity and the experience of the teachers to be very limited.
After university, I moved to Japan for six years where I practiced mostly Aikido and kickboxing, got some good experience in Judo and Kendo. Also during that time I traveled a lot in China and got a good introduction to Shaoliln gongfu. I managed to find a group in Osaka that trains Shaolin and met with them about once a month for fun.
Then I moved to Wuhan to teach at the sports school there for three years. I mostly trained with the professional Sanda program, but I was able to informally train Shaolin, Baji, qigong, etc as well. For one month I trained Wugulun Shaolin full time which was a very interesting experience. During my time in China, a lot of the traditional training I did was informally with friends and I taught them things like Aikido as well.
So, in essence, I train whatever I can where I live.
what part do you like about it
I enjoy the friendships I've made. TCMA itself is fascinating to study, and provides some historical context to the modern arts that I do.
what parts dont you like
Passive-agressiveness, superstitions, superiority complexes
Registered User
The groupies.
uh, there ARE groupies, aren't there?
Defender of Truth
Leave? No. Pick up anything from anywhere that is useful and works? Yes.
Shaolin Jinnaluo War Cult
Would you look at that? Sooner or later everyone has a post I like.
(. Y .)
It's hard to explain... it's kind've the Bruce Lee thing. It's not necessarily that there's anything wrong with the styles I participate in, I just go where the wind blows so to speak. I like martial arts. I like all martial arts. I do find that MMA and BJJ guys are some of the most fun to hang with... even though I hold no rank in BJJ, I love to go and throw down with them. In the beginning, I did pretty much get my arse handed to me, now I hold my own. I guess I go to where I feel the fighters are. If a new guy came to town teaching TCMA and had a rep for throwing down, I'd be game - I'd show up to see what it's about. Not to be a d!ck, or to prove I'm tough, just to see what they got and to train with them if it's worth it to me. I'm not about doing the super formal heireichy thing anymore since I feel I've earned my keep as a martial artist. I'm ok being a white belt again, that's not a problem, but if I feel that someone is talking down to me - we shiai - we play seriously if I don't feel they earned the right to have that attitude.
For what it's worth, my personal "hero" in the martial arts is my Sigung Chung Ho Yin.
Last edited by MightyB; 01-26-2013 at 10:03 AM. Reason: thinking about it, I really only have one hero
Shifu
MightB
agreed I always check out other schools.If a new guy came to town teaching TCMA and had a rep for throwing down, I'd be game - I'd show up to see what it's about.
I had a so called mantis guy without traceable lineage come from Cleveland advertising and teaching 8 step . I honestly asked him if he would be willing to teach me weapons as i know none. he was all gung ho then after checking my credentials and who I was he said he wouldn't know enough to teach me anything. I said you would if it were weapons again I don't know any. I felt he might be intimidated and avoided me after that. wouldn't even show me a weapon set and closed his kwoon 8 months later and moved back to Cleveland. I also have had teachers walk into my school nad challenge me. Im all for it, if you cant back up what you teach and preach then you have no business owning a school . i hate fat out fo shape teachers/shrfu's
I always consider myself a student and there's always someone whom can teach you something, this is why even after 31 years I don't feel master or pretending to be called master is in my vocabulary.I'm ok being a white belt again, that's not a problem, but if I feel that someone is talking down to me - we shiai - we play seriously if I don't feel they earned the right to have that attitude.
KUNG FU USA
www.eightstepkungfu.com
Teaching traditional Ba Bu Tang Lang (Eight Step Praying Mantis)
Jin Gon Tzu Li Gung (Medical) Qigong
Wu style Taiji Chuan
Teacher always told his students, "You need to have Wude, patient, tolerance, humble, ..." When he died, his last words to his students was, "Remember that the true meaning of TCMA is fierce, poison, and kill."
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