Angles, Chum Kiu, the Blind Side, and Mike Tyson

[GlennR]

The key to Tyson's success with his angles was tying that in with both his head movement and his devastating hooks and uppercuts. Without those, he would have been just an average fighter, if even that.

So without his punches, footwork and defense he would have been ordinary??

Youre right... who needs that stuff in boxing

[LaRoux]

So without his punches, footwork and defense he would have been ordinary??

Youre right... who needs that stuff in boxing

Not just any punches, specifically the hooks and uppercuts.

Not just any defense, the specific head movement.

[GlennR]

Not just any punches, specifically the hooks and uppercuts.

Not just any defense, the specific head movement.

That would leave the jab and cross.
Had a great, underrated jab which few people fail to notice (because they focus on his knockouts) and a solid cross as well as an awesome OH right.

And threw combinations as a heavyweight that few could or have done since.

Slipped, bobbed, weaved.... could do it all.

Could fight in close, medium range and long (for his height)

Tough, ludicrously fast and had good whiskers.

What exactly was he bad at??

ps. im not even a huge Tyson fan

[LaRoux]

That would leave the jab and cross.
Had a great, underrated jab which few people fail to notice (because they focus on his knockouts) and a solid cross as well as an awesome OH right.

And threw combinations as a heavyweight that few could or have done since.

Slipped, bobbed, weaved.... could do it all.

Could fight in close, medium range and long (for his height)

Tough, ludicrously fast and had good whiskers.

What exactly was he bad at??

ps. im not even a huge Tyson fan

I wasn't saying he bad at anything. His jab and cross were OK, but not really that special. He was way too short, but he developed a style that took that "short"-coming and made it an asset.

[GlennR]

I wasn't saying he bad at anything. His jab and cross were OK, but not really that special. He was way too short, but he developed a style that took that "short"-coming and made it an asset.

You said he was ordinary without his hooks and uppercuts, he didn't develop the style, it w already there and he honed it via a great coach and hard training.


Why was he too short? He was two inches taller than Marciano and the same height as joe Frazier

Honestly, if you don't know boxing don't make uneducated throw away comments ( like so many of the anti-Tyson brigade do) about him.

It's a bit like me hopping on the grappling thread (I'm not a grappler) critiquing one of the Gracie's

[Graham H]

Thans Graham, didnt know you could say poof here....... ya poof!

I had a feeling you may jump on that one. Predictable but in a nice puppy dog way.

[GlennR]

I had a feeling you may jump on that one. Predictable but in a nice puppy dog way.

Woof, ya poofy knob!!!

[Graham H]

Woof, ya poofy knob!!!

Ooooooooo goody! I can say knob as well! <<giggles like a little girl>>

[LFJ]

What exactly was he bad at??

Acting?

[Vajramusti]

I wasn't saying he bad at anything. His jab and cross were OK, but not really that special. He was way too short, but he developed a style that took that "short"-coming and made it an asset.

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Silly pontificating about what you don't seem to know much about. Stick to mma comments.

[k gledhill]

Too short was Tysons strength...his two massive quadriceps raising at the same time into a hook/uppercut, etc.. developed a massive amount of power.

[LaRoux]

Too short was Tysons strength...his two massive quadriceps raising at the same time into a hook/uppercut, etc.. developed a massive amount of power.

Agree about his lack of height. He turned a natural weakness into a overwhelming strength.

You met him. What do you think his real height is? I think he was listed at 5'11", but I think that was overstated.

[LaRoux]

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Silly pontificating about what you don't seem to know much about. Stick to mma comments.

Maybe you could add your more informed thoughts as to his strengths and weaknesses, oh wise old one.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Agree about his lack of height. He turned a natural weakness into a overwhelming strength.

You met him. What do you think his real height is? I think he was listed at 5'11", but I think that was overstated.

I'm 5-6 and when I met Tyson I'd give him 5-9 at the most.
I remember how Lewis towered over him.

[k gledhill]

Agree about his lack of height. He turned a natural weakness into a overwhelming strength.

You met him. What do you think his real height is? I think he was listed at 5'11", but I think that was overstated.

I am 6'1" he looked more... 5'-9"~10"