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    It's best if your teacher is a bloodthirsty gangster with a history of aggresive violence and street fighting. That way you know if he is still alive, and not cripple, that his method works.
    For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.

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    wait, this guy dated his student who was married to a cop?
    Dude...f*** morality, you shouldn't study under anyone that stupid!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenTigers View Post
    wait, this guy dated his student who was married to a cop?
    Dude...f*** morality, you shouldn't study under anyone that stupid!
    No. The teacher is the cop
    It is better to have less thunder in the mouth and more lightning in the hand. - Apache Proverb

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    Even thou a teacher is not a priest,

    teaching by acts speaks louder than teaching by speech.

    We do not expect moral lessons from a MA teacher.

    However, being a teacher of any kind, we have to pay attention to our acts or behaviors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SPJ View Post
    Even thou a teacher is not a priest,

    teaching by acts speaks louder than teaching by speech.

    We do not expect moral lessons from a MA teacher.

    However, being a teacher of any kind, we have to pay attention to our acts or behaviors.

    I personally avoid association with immoral and unethical people period.
    I've quit jobs over issues of ethics and morality. I'd rather be temporarily impoverished than serve the unreasonable avarice of another.

    I won't study under thugs nor will I commit time to practice with them, but I will observe and note their behaviours. These are generally the people you are defending against.

    Just a personal choice of mine.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    I personally avoid association with immoral and unethical people period.
    I've quit jobs over issues of ethics and morality. I'd rather be temporarily impoverished than serve the unreasonable avarice of another.

    I won't study under thugs nor will I commit time to practice with them, but I will observe and note their behaviours. These are generally the people you are defending against.

    Just a personal choice of mine.
    What if they are just a stone cold killer, but not actually a thug or covetous?


    Do you need a warm personality too? Or is it ok of they are cold?


    What if they have never desired to hurt anyone or taken anything from anyone but were still egotistical jerks?




    Another question... If you observe and take note of their behaviors are you not investing time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    What if they are just a stone cold killer, but not actually a thug or covetous?


    Do you need a warm personality too? Or is it ok of they are cold?


    What if they have never desired to hurt anyone or taken anything from anyone but were still egotistical jerks?




    Another question... If you observe and take note of their behaviors are you not investing time?
    Too many hypotheticals. "what ifs" etc. I don't use them. the experience is either to be had or not.

    Observation is not the same as giving them my time or money so no, it's not a significant investment. More of an acknowledgment.
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    but, but...what if...

    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Too many hypotheticals. "what ifs" etc.
    What if your teacher is bawang?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    What if your teacher is bawang?
    Hypotheticals are the only things keeping us going at this point... lol.


    Clearly this is a moral stance. I'm just curious as to where that line is. I know where mine is, don't you know where yours is?

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    Bawang is all of our teacher is he not? Are we not entertained?

    Anyway, a person morally aligns with you and you see this after time with them or you can have it immediately revealed to you depending on circumstance.

    the rest is personal choice.

    I personally won't study from such a person.

    My loss I guess. Or not. It really doesn't matter as it is entirely going to be my experience anyway.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Bawang is all of our teacher is he not? Are we not entertained?

    Anyway, a person morally aligns with you and you see this after time with them or you can have it immediately revealed to you depending on circumstance.

    the rest is personal choice.

    I personally won't study from such a person.

    My loss I guess. Or not. It really doesn't matter as it is entirely going to be my experience anyway.
    Whether it's a loss or not is dependent on your priorities I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    Whether it's a loss or not is dependent on your priorities I guess.
    Exactly. So I lose nothing by living my life as I see fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Exactly. So I lose nothing by living my life as I see fit.
    Not from your perspective, nope. But this topic opens up a huge bag of involved conversation, so I'm happy to end with that.

    If you're happy, I'm cool with that. As long as people don't mess with mine, I really don't worry what they do. That too opens a long convo as to what is destructive directly and indirectly, but you know what I'm sayin'.

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    AH morality...subjective or objective, that is the question...
    Psalms 144:1
    Praise be my Lord my Rock,
    He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    AH morality...subjective or objective, that is the question...
    When somebody shows you how they really are, let them.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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