snake engine dymistify

[Hendrik]

for those who is interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcxOSqx7KTQ

[Grumblegeezer]

Mr. Santos, you are aware that some of us suffer from ADD (attention deficit disorder) and consequently don't have the mental capacity to watch these clips from start to finish without our minds wandering.

In fact trying to watch them is almost physically painful, like when my wife makes me watch a particularly tedious episode of Antiques Road Show, ...only not as interesting. Sorry, I know the fault is mine.

Anyway, Do you ever post some nice, exciting demo's of what you are talking about?

[Hendrik]

Mr. Santos, you are aware that some of us suffer from ADD (attention deficit disorder) and consequently don't have the mental capacity to watch these clips from start to finish without our minds wandering.

In fact trying to watch them is almost physically painful, like when my wife makes me watch a particularly tedious episode of Antiques Road Show, ...only not as interesting. Sorry, I know the fault is mine.

Anyway, Do you ever post some nice, exciting demo's of what you are talking about?

As I say, It is only for those who is interested.
Please Ignore me if it is not your interest.

[anerlich]

In fact trying to watch them is almost physically painful, like when my wife makes me watch a particularly tedious episode of Antiques Road Show, ...only not as interesting. Sorry, I know the fault is mine.

Dude, you diss the Antiques Roadshow unfairly. Plus Fiona (the host) is a hottie.

[BPWT]

Dude, you diss the Antiques Roadshow unfairly. Plus Fiona (the host) is a hottie.

Fiona Bruce... getting Anerlich's snake engine working

[anerlich]

Yep, not a lot to dimystify (sic) there

[Vajramusti]

for those who is interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcxOSqx7KTQ

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Hendrik- I appreciated reading the readable English translation of the concepts of the snake and crane in wing chun. There are gulfs between words and action. You have a background in Yik Kam's version of the art and you have posted pictures from the HK snake/crane school.

My comment is that it is possible to understand the principles alluded to in a well developed Ip Man lineage- without any reference to or imitation of shapes from the two schools that have been part of your posts.

I know that many people claiming to do wing chun just use the label "wing chun" but do things quite differently.

Some of the other Yik Kam and Cho family people have imported some clf and hung ga into what they do.

What I do comes from an unbroken transmission with major contributions along the way within the framework of wing chun,

I am not giving you a hard time but just commenting from a perspective somewhat different from yours

[Hendrik]

Joy,

The article on snake crane elements in the red boat era is to present what exist in that era as it is by evidence .

It is not about chogar or Ipman or anyone or any evolution.

It is we find the evidence and we present them as it is. The WCK world deserve to see what is exist.

Thus, in these article we use ancient WCK kuen kuit as the reference And not anyone lineage. But common denominator of red boat era WCK.


The YouTube in the thread is to present What is a snake body or snake engine, how the snake body related to the physical world in term of momentum, force, force change, and accereation, the physics basic elements.

How snake body support the
four type of basic momentum/force operation: push back, sustain, recieve, and issue.
three types of WCK force change handling : the direct, roundabout, and recovery.
five common type of momentum/force play basic elements : lead, collision, split, block, and absorb. Which are the basic of chisau and combat applications.

How the red boat era WCK elements translate to today's view.

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Hendrik- I appreciated reading the readable English translation of the concepts of the snake and crane in wing chun. There are gulfs between words and action. You have a background in Yik Kam's version of the art and you have posted pictures from the HK snake/crane school.

My comment is that it is possible to understand the principles alluded to in a well developed Ip Man lineage- without any reference to or imitation of shapes from the two schools that have been part of your posts.

I know that many people claiming to do wing chun just use the label "wing chun" but do things quite differently.

Some of the other Yik Kam and Cho family people have imported some clf and hung ga into what they do.

What I do comes from an unbroken transmission with major contributions along the way within the framework of wing chun,

I am not giving you a hard time but just commenting from a perspective somewhat different from yours

[Vajramusti]

Joy,

The article on snake crane elements in the red boat era is to present what exist in that era as it is by evidence .

It is not about chogar or Ipman or anyone or any evolution.


It is we find the evidence and we present them as it is. The WCK world deserve to see what is exist.

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I think that we are mis communicating. I accept the snake crane conceptions in the red boat era.
The snake crane school is their and your version of evidence-there are others.
I am not doing you tube but if we sat down I could show and explain better than
fragmented forum chats.

[Hendrik]

Joy

Please read my edit above.

I really don't understand your point bringing up Ipman lineage . And chogar ....

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I think that we are mis communicating. I accept the snake crane conceptions in the red boat era.
The snake crane school is their and your version of evidence-there are others.
I am not doing you tube but if we sat down I could show and explain better than
fragmented forum chats.

[k gledhill]

I am ready to see the dynamics in action Hendrik. Lets see a looooong clip of the idea "hands on ".

[anerlich]

Joy,

The article on snake crane elements in the red boat era is to present what exist in that era as it is by evidence .

It is not about chogar or Ipman or anyone or any evolution.

It is we find the evidence and we present them as it is. The WCK world deserve to see what is exist.

Thus, in these article we use ancient WCK kuen kuit as the reference And not anyone lineage. But common denominator of red boat era WCK.


The YouTube in the thread is to present What is a snake body or snake engine, how the snake body related to the physical world in term of momentum, force, force change, and accereation, the physics basic elements.

How snake body support the
four type of basic momentum/force operation: push back, sustain, recieve, and issue.
three types of WCK force change handling : the direct, roundabout, and recovery.
five common type of momentum/force play basic elements : lead, collision, split, block, and absorb. Which are the basic of chisau and combat applications.

How the red boat era WCK elements translate to today's view.

What you have written above is the content of the video, which I watched.

Observations:

The vid had a great deal of repetition. You could have condensed the 27 minutes into 5 or less with just a little better scripting and rehearsal. If people don't get something the first time, they can play it back!

The way it was presented there is little more real info provided other than what you wrote above, and thus the vid is arguably redundant, except perhaps for ego purposes.

Demonstrations of the basic elements would have been much more effective if they had been performed on a training partner.

And yes, watching you talk to the camera for 27 minutes is quite tedious. you are not Will Ferrell, and you are certainly not Fiona Bruce.

[Hendrik]

Thanks and appreciate for your advise.
Will sure work on improvement.

What you have written above is the content of the video, which I watched.

Observations:

The vid had a great deal of repetition. You could have condensed the 27 minutes into 5 or less with just a little better scripting and rehearsal. If people don't get something the first time, they can play it back!

The way it was presented there is little more real info provided other than what you wrote above, and thus the vid is arguably redundant, except perhaps for ego purposes.

Demonstrations of the basic elements would have been much more effective if they had been performed on a training partner.

And yes, watching you talk to the camera for 27 minutes is quite tedious. you are not Will Ferrell, and you are certainly not Fiona Bruce.

[trubblman]

for those who is interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcxOSqx7KTQ

I find your video fascinating and thought provoking