posture in SLT development

[Wayfaring]

All the "engine" talk has to be taken with a grain of salt. It's just a concept, mental model. It means nothing in a fight. The only part that makes any difference at all is how you've drilled your fundamentals to react.

WCK people get too caught up in the cerebral, the conceptual as the art is based upon concepts.

That's why they get their ears boxed by a boxer who has no knowledge of "engines" but has a disciplined regimen of bag work, pad work, foot work and sparring.

When you are in a fight you don't have time for "gentlemen start your engines". You have to fight. Now.

[YouKnowWho]

Allow me to ask another stupid question here.

Can you develop your "engine" by using a heavy bag instead? From the discussion that I have seen so far, the "engine" is used for "striking" purpose (I assume you don't need your "engine" for health, performance, self-cultivation, and inner peace). Instead of to strike into the thin air, will it make more sense to strike on a heavy bag instead?

If to throw a non-existed opponent cannot help you to develop your throwing skill, how can to punch a non-existed opponent will be able help you to develop your "engine"?

[GlennR]

All the "engine" talk has to be taken with a grain of salt. It's just a concept, mental model. It means nothing in a fight. The only part that makes any difference at all is how you've drilled your fundamentals to react.

WCK people get too caught up in the cerebral, the conceptual as the art is based upon concepts.

That's why they get their ears boxed by a boxer who has no knowledge of "engines" but has a disciplined regimen of bag work, pad work, foot work and sparring.

When you are in a fight you don't have time for "gentlemen start your engines". You have to fight. Now.

Ill agree with you to a point, but a well trained boxer does have an "engine", so to speak, he just doesnt call it that.

Weight transfer, body rotation, posture, elbow placement, leg drive ..... all trained and all add up to improving his "engine".

And these are trained (as well as other things) whilst doing all the things you mentioned...."disciplined regimen of bag work, pad work, foot work and sparring"

[Robinhood]

Allow me to ask another stupid question here.

Can you develop your "engine" by using a heavy bag instead? From the discussion that I have seen so far, the "engine" is used for "striking" purpose (I assume you don't need your "engine" for health, performance, self-cultivation, and inner peace). Instead of to strike into the thin air, will it make more sense to strike on a heavy bag instead?

If to throw a non-existed opponent cannot help you to develop your throwing skill, how can to punch a non-existed opponent will be able help you to develop your "engine"?

Do you crash your car into wall to start its engine .

Does car crashing into wall improve motor.

Does crashing car into wall make you good driver.

[GlennR]

Allow me to ask another stupid question here.

Can you develop your "engine" by using a heavy bag instead? From the discussion that I have seen so far, the "engine" is used for "striking" purpose (I assume you don't need your "engine" for health, performance, self-cultivation, and inner peace). Instead of to strike into the thin air, will it make more sense to strike on a heavy bag instead?

Well you need both, and id add mitt work, mirror work and floor-ceiling ball (in boxing).

Personally, i dont do my heaviest work on a heavy bag, i do it on the focus mitts (except maybe body rips) as i find i work my combinations smoother and quicker on the pads than on the bag. This adds to my power

But..... if im a bit off, not happy with what im doing, its of to the mirror and do it in thin air.... watching my technique, posture, balance and so forth.

Then i go back and do it again

If to throw a non-existed opponent cannot help you to develop your throwing skill, how can to punch a non-existed opponent will be able help you to develop your "engine"?

Im not a grappler, but surely there is foot work / posture you can train alone?

[Ozzy Dave]

Allow me to ask another stupid question here.

Can you develop your "engine" by using a heavy bag instead? From the discussion that I have seen so far, the "engine" is used for "striking" purpose (I assume you don't need your "engine" for health, performance, self-cultivation, and inner peace). Instead of to strike into the thin air, will it make more sense to strike on a heavy bag instead?

Yes, but I agree with Glenn you need a balance, it's also worth mentioning that this is also what the dummy (muk jong) is for.

Dave

[GlennR]

Yes, but I agree with Glenn you need a balance, it's also worth mentioning that this is also what the dummy (muk jong) is for.

Dave

Spot on Dave, people think of the dummy and heavy bag in the same way..... Bang away as hard as you can.

Maybe on the odd occasion, but there's more to both devices than that

[imperialtaichi]

Allow me to ask another stupid question here.

Can you develop your "engine" by using a heavy bag instead? From the discussion that I have seen so far, the "engine" is used for "striking" purpose (I assume you don't need your "engine" for health, performance, self-cultivation, and inner peace). Instead of to strike into the thin air, will it make more sense to strike on a heavy bag instead?

If to throw a non-existed opponent cannot help you to develop your throwing skill, how can to punch a non-existed opponent will be able help you to develop your "engine"?

Yes... and no.

The force generation part, heavy bags, heavy weapons etc. is useful to train and test your structures.

However, when interacting with a living opponent, we also capitalise on his response, and the way he acts and reacts. Our structure and mental projection needs to be trained to deal with and utilize this. Otherwise, weight lifters will be the best fighters and we don't need to spar or have training partners (wait, some people don't! )

And I do believe throwing a non-existed opponent CAN help you develop throwing skills.... the same way mentally practicing the piano when you are sitting on a bus. But it needs to be tested consistantly by doing it with a real person to make sure you are on the right track, and not just fooling yourself.

[Wayfaring]

And I do believe throwing a non-existed opponent CAN help you develop throwing skills....

Ivan Ivanov agrees:

http://www.suples.com/speed-dummy/

[Robinhood]

Ivan Ivanov agrees:

http://www.suples.com/speed-dummy/

Lol, YA, some people will buy just just about anything, ( gullible )

[poulperadieux]

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[Robinhood]

Ivan Ivanov agrees:

http://www.suples.com/speed-dummy/

Maybe they come with instruction for making holes in them.

[poulperadieux]

maybe they come with instruction for making holes in them.

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[Wayfaring]

:d:d:d:d:d

you two seem to be in the process of getting a room and bringing your favorite blow-up dolls.

don't let my proof of an Olympic wrestling coach designing thowing dummies to augment training as proof you can drill to obtain grappling skill without a training partner get in you two's way.

[poulperadieux]

you two seem to be in the process of getting a room and bringing your favorite blow-up dolls.

don't let my proof of an Olympic wrestling coach designing thowing dummies to augment training as proof you can drill to obtain grappling skill without a training partner get in you two's way.

Olympic? Dolls?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5unkx9liEuo