Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
For us, we frequently use forearm contact and guiding to serve the same purpose as mantis hook. Especially when we have gloves. And also when we want to close in tight.

This is using the theory but favoring our preference for working a closer range than shown literally in the classical methods.
Mantis has kao da, but many don't seem to integrate that.

So you see staying on the outside and patty cake like MightyB describes.