Who is the biggest fraud in Chinese martial arts?

[Syn7]

Kefluffle isn't an American word. I don't speak foreigner.

You speak murikan!

[GeneChing]

...would cause such a kerfuffle.

We are quite amused.

[lkfmdc]

Stop using British here, this is an English language forum

[GeneChing]

...no NY agro-ness, man...

[lkfmdc]

Mak Jo Si from Chiinnature, and this guy says he is a taoist master,

I almost forgot about him (almost!)

[lkfmdc]

Dude...chill...it's a California-based forum

that would explain all the fruits, flakes and nuts.....

[Syn7]

Fraud in MA's typically means that the techniques have not been combat tested by the teacher.

[David Jamieson]

Fraud in MA's typically means that the techniques have not been combat tested by the teacher.

To you that's what it means.

It's got way more layers than that for me.

There are plenty of great teachers out there that are not proficient in single combat and there are a lot of people who are proficient in single combat that can't teach worth crap.

[YouKnowWho]

There are plenty of great teachers out there that are not proficient in single combat ...

Why will you call them "great teachers" then?

IMO, I don't expect my teacher to be able to do everything. I expect him to be able to do at least onething better than everybody on this planet. I'll be happy to stay with him many years just to learn that one simple skill. If that onething is not even available, I just don't see the value to learn from that teacher.

there are a lot of people who are proficient in single combat that can't teach worth crap.

To me, there won't be any problem. If I just let my teacher to beat me up several times, I can learn from how he beats me up. To me, that will be the best lesson that I can have.

[MasterKiller]

Why will you call them "great teachers" then?.

Great fighters win fights.

Great teachers have students that win fights.

Bill Belichek never played football past highschool, but he's been to 5 Superbowls as a head coach.

Mike Singletary was one the greateast linebackers of all time. He utterly failed at coaching a team (49ers) that, under a new head coach, just went to the Superbowl.

[lkfmdc]

There is a guy who literally may be the best Muay Thai fighter of all time..... amd sucks canal water as a coach

well known that I was a very average amateur, but have consistently coached to level guys

my personal opinion, you must at minimum be grounded in reality... not a champion, but have put in the work... for people likst CTS and Master Chang Dung Sheng, well, they clearly all fought

[YouKnowWho]

Bill Belichek never played football past highschool, but he's been to 5 Superbowls as a head coach.

If my teacher wants to teach me lighting skill but he can't jump to the top of the roof, I don't think I want to learn lighting skill from him.

I'm good in "single leg". All my studens are good in "single leg". I'm not very good in "hand harmony". None of my students are good in "hand harmony". Those are just simple fact.

[MasterKiller]

If my teacher wants to teach me lighting skill but he can't jump to the top of the roof, I don't think I want to learn lighting skill from him.

I learned how to fix my garbage disposal on Youtube.

Fighting isn't rocket science.

[David Jamieson]

If my teacher wants to teach me lighting skill but he can't jump to the top of the roof, I don't think I want to learn lighting skill from him.

I'm good in "single leg". All my studens are good in "single leg". I'm not very good in "hand harmony". None of my students are good in "hand harmony". Those are just the fact.

Teaching is Theory.
Doing is Practical.

One can fully understand and transmit the theory.
Practice is what makes it practical.

What if teacher is 80 years old? Does he have nothing to offer because he can't beat you up anymore toe to toe?

Doesn't that thinking render your own efforts as useless ultimately?
When you are old and can no longer do anything worthwhile martially, does that mean what you offer to teach is worthless too?

I personally don't think so.

[YouKnowWho]

I learned how to fix my garbage disposal on Youtube.

Fighting isn't rocket science.

But we need to have "faith" to even start something. If a teacher wants to teach me "death touch". I want to see what he can do first. All my life, I don't believe in words. I only believe my own eyes.