Green Dragon's Iron Vest

[YouKnowWho]

Allow me to ask a stupid question here. Will "iron vest" be able to allow your head to take a full blow? I just hate to see that someone spends 20 years training in iron vest, oneday his opponent just knocks him out by punching to the face.

I can see the value to make your arms and legs tough because you will need to use it to block punches and kicks. But if you can't make your head tough, I just don't see the value to make your body tough.

A solid steel cup with a glass handler just don't make sense IMO.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Allow me to ask a stupid question here. Will "iron vest" be able to allow your head to take a full blow? I just hate to see that someone spends 20 years training in iron vest, oneday his opponent just knocks him out by punching to the face.

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[bawang]

Allow me to ask a stupid question here. Will "iron vest" be able to allow your head to take a full blow? I just hate to see that someone spends 20 years training in iron vest, oneday his opponent just knocks him out by punching to the face.

when you toughen your stomach, you dont have to lower your hands.

*stroke beard

[David Jamieson]

when you toughen your stomach, you dont have to lower your hands.

*stroke beard

lol.

You still have to protect it and boxers do this by dropping an elbow to cover the gut. They drop stance and lower the guard.

But John is also right in that Iron exercises do pretty much zero for someone with a glass jaw.

[bawang]

This is very true. Gong = time. If you spend 2 hours daily, you will get there twice faster than those who only spends 1 hour daily. 2 hours daily is not that much.

2 hours of flexing = spinal compression injury

But John is also right in that Iron exercises do pretty much zero for someone with a glass jaw.

of course it does. its called mouth gong.

[David Jamieson]

of course it does. its called mouth gong.

That's what She said!

lol @ "mouth gong"...

clench teeth, roll with punch.

Is that a gong now?

[bawang]

That's what She said!

lol @ "mouth gong"...

clench teeth, roll with punch.

Is that a gong now?

if you knew more than just iron wire, aka shaking your hands next to your ears and screaming like a bird, you wouldnt make fun of this.

yes. mouth gong is chewing tough things, and clenching the teeth. what is so rediculous about that. you do know they even train this at songshan shaolin.

you know iron shirt training is just smacking yourself with your fist or a stick, right? none of that chinatown hookey dookey looly looly bullsh1t?

[Golden Arms]

Just as I suspected, this place is full of a majority that know very little but talk a lot. The blind leading the blind.

Just for the record: When has Bawang ever even said what style he trains, how long, who he learned from, etc.? And why would that make him an expert in other systems? Being Chinese makes you no more an expert on Chinese martial arts than being from the United States makes you an expert on civil war strategies.

[bawang]

Just for the record: When has Bawang ever even said what style he trains, how long, who he learned from, etc.? And why would that make him an expert in other systems? Being Chinese makes you no more an expert on Chinese martial arts than being from the United States makes you an expert on civil war strategies.

i train jesus christ.


i know that YOU dont train any form of tough physical exercises at all, from your confession in the training thread. you are not qualified to talk about anything regarding training and conditioning.

[IronWeasel]

i train jesus christ.

Post vid....

[Golden Arms]

i train jesus christ.


i know that YOU dont train any form of tough physical exercises at all, from your confession in the training thread. you are not qualified to talk about anything regarding training and conditioning.

For others on the forums, remember "buyer beware" and do your homework. If you choose to listen to him it should be for a good reason.

Bawang, I have trained for close to 30 hours a week for the last 13 years, had 3 fights in January of this year. I also run 3 miles every other day, skip rope at high speed daily, do a lot of explosive plyometric work, and lift weights a few times a week. Until you prove otherwise, you don't even deserve to shine my shoes, let alone give me advice. Feel free to explain to everyone what you train, how often, and what you have accomplished.

While you are at it, why don't you go ahead and shed some light on why you think 洗髓功 (Xi Sui Gong/Bone Marrow Washing) doesn't exist as well as what makes you more qualified than the individuals I mentioned earlier in this thread to speak on the subject. I noticed you conveniently "forgot to address" that question.

You are a great example of a big fish in a small pond, or as the Chinese might say, 井底之蛙 (The frog in the bottom of a well).

[bawang]

Bawang, I have trained for close to 30 hours a week for the last 13 years, had 3 fights in January of this year. I also run 3 miles every other day, skip rope at high speed daily, do a lot of explosive plyometric work, and lift weights a few times a week. Until you prove otherwise, you don't even deserve to shine my shoes, let alone give me advice. Feel free to explain to everyone what you train, how often, and what you have accomplished.

you said in one of the training threads that horse stance can build muscle mass, weight lifting is not neccesary to get big and strong. i dont believe you are a super badass warrior monk fighter with the kind of opinions you have said. if you do fight, you must be a tomato can.

You are a great example of a big fish in a small pond, or as the Chinese might say, 井底之蛙 (The frog in the bottom of a well).

i have never bragged about myself, i have never promoted any superiority of my kung fu style, i have never talked about the supernatural.

i dont need to "prove" myself, because i never presented myself as a bad ass super duper kung fu warrior.

[Golden Arms]

you said in one of the training threads that horse stance can build muscle mass, weight lifting is not neccesary to get big and strong. i dont believe you are a super badass warrior monk fighter with the kind of opinions you have said. if you do fight, you must be a tomato can.

Lumberjacks and fishermen don't necessarily lift weights in the conventional sense, are you saying they are not extremely strong?

As far as the ideas presented on this forum as gospel regarding strength, why don't you read this book and enlighten yourself.

Supertraining: Yuri-Verkhoshansky Maybe you are more qualified to speak on that subject than the author:

The most complete and up to date book in Special Strength Training (SST): Methodological foundations of special strength training, Guidelines for planning SST, SST means and methods - resistance and jump exercises, Complex method, Stimulation method, Contrast method, Circuit method, Strength-aerobic method, Organization of SST in training process and Block Training System, SST means methods and program for acyclic sports, SST means methods and program for cyclic sports, SST means methods and program for sports games and combat sports, traditional SST exercises used by high-level track & field athletes, questions and answers about warm-up, 'Ultra Mass' bodybuilding program, the contribution of Yury Verkhoshansky to the development of sport science.

[bawang]

As far as the ideas presented on this forum as gospel regarding strength, why don't you read this book and enlighten yourself.

Supertraining: Yuri-Verkhoshansky Maybe you are more qualified to speak on that subject than the author:

i dont lift weight because some steroid injecting slav scientist. i dont lift weights to look down on "internals".
i lift weights because traditional chinese kung fu lifts weights. i uphold tradition, PERIOD.

[David Jamieson]

Just as I suspected, this place is full of a majority that know very little but talk a lot. The blind leading the blind.

Just for the record: When has Bawang ever even said what style he trains, how long, who he learned from, etc.? And why would that make him an expert in other systems? Being Chinese makes you no more an expert on Chinese martial arts than being from the United States makes you an expert on civil war strategies.

Just for the record, don't get worked up by Bawang. It's pointless.