Those of you that advocate only doing the horse the guy in pink is doing better have done a lot of the lower, bigger horse prior to starting that one.
Those of you that advocate only doing the horse the guy in pink is doing better have done a lot of the lower, bigger horse prior to starting that one.
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Welcome to the forum Monkey King.
You'll get there if you keep practicing. I agree with those who said the guy in pink is doing it correctly. At first you'll feel like you're going to fall over backwards and your quads are going to blow out of your legs, but in time as you build your root it'll all just click into place for you. I recommend also using wall sitting, lunges and squats to help build the muscles. In our system you can't get a black belt unless you can do an hour of horse stance. At least we break it up into 30 mins of high, 15 mins of mid level and 15 mins of low horse. That's including a 7 to 8 hour test. It's a true gut buster.
Oh, ten minutes is not so long when you've been doing it for over 30 years. I did instruct a young practitioner many years ago to hold his palms out in front of his chest, facing each other at right angles while in a horse stance to help condition his wrists/nerves. I told him that if he did this, he would forget all about the pain, etc. in his hips/thighs,legs. He practiced that way from then on.
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An easy way to find the proper distance is to stand with your feet together and then:
Turn the toes out to 45 degrees, heels touching.
Now turn the heels out to 45 degrees, leaving your toes where they were.
Now leave your heels where they are and move the toes out until the feet are parallel.
The final width will depend on how big your feet are, though.
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I think you may talk about the shoulder width. In the throwing art, the shoulder with is better than the shoulder width + 2 fists distance. Since in striking art, people like to switch horse stance into 4-6 stance (40% weight on leading leg), the horse stance used in the striking art is a bit wider.
It's a bell curve.
http://imageshack.us/a/img217/2254/bellcurve.jpg
When you have both feet touching, you have poor balance. When you move your feet futher apart, your balance start to improve. When you have reached to a certain point, if you keep moving your feet apart, your balance will get poor again.
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 04-29-2013 at 10:16 PM.
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Get it in during the day as time allows. I do it while brushing my teeth, etc.
Strong legs also make you a better runner. Squats also reinforce all of this.
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the guy in the white is doing a modern wushu thing.
its also important to note, when you do your horse stance when your legs start to shake that is a good thing, dont stop the moment they start to shake. force through a bit until it becomes almost uncontrolable and you will fall down.
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The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
~ Mark Twain
Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
~ Joe Lewis
A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
~ Author unknown
"You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"
"Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"
This is more what I had in mind.
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I don't care how old this person may be. I don't like his "outer" horse stance. It won't work if you use it for your hip throw. You may even hurt your knee joints by doing so. By using the SC system standard, this is a no no.
I also don't like to use it in striking. When you "spring" from your back leg, your body is not moving forward but moving 45 degree backward. By using the Baji system standard, this is also a no no.
If the outer horse stance cannot be used in both throwing art and striking art, where can you use it anyway? Performance? It doesn't even look pretty.
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 04-30-2013 at 06:19 PM.
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