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    New Vids

    Here is some very recently updated links to some footage that I'd really appreciate you comments on both negative and positive:

    SanZhan Instructional:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIGQ_...ature=youtu.be

    The demonstration shown here is from a Martial not "technical" perspective. In our school of White Crane Gongfu, it is felt that Yi or "Intention" and Shen fa or "Body-Feel" are far more important and or greater value than if your elbow is in or out slightly, whether you foot faces too much this way or that. We believe that in the heat of combative or life-protection situations these things matter the least. Body-Feel is to our way, the most important aspect one can develop!

    White Crane Broadsword:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkmGHgw-R7w

    White Crane Straight Sword:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xUcScMW8CM

    White Crane Pole:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtmCQ7aL0M

    Ron Goninan
    China Fuzhou Zhenlan Crane Boxing Australia
    White Crane Research Institute Inc
    http://www.whitecranegongfu.info
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    the weapons should reflect the style's structure and fighting concepts.
    For example, SPM's poison snake staff looks like you are playing the hands, with a staff. The Butterfly knives show the intricacies of the hand articulations.
    Another thing, I ususally look at the gim as a sugical instrument, utilizing finesse, and the dao more of a hacking,slicing, weapon. The gim should show evasive body movements while sugically striking blood vessels, tendons,organs. The dao should incorperate momentum, opening and closing of the structure to power the weapon.
    The staff set should show the white crane elements as well. The basic twirling and striking don't seem to match up to the style's kuen faht.
    Since Fukien Bak Hok P'ai holds many similarities to styles such as Wing Chun as well as the Hakka Kuen systems, perhaps you can look to those for additional information.
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
    Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"

    "I will not be part of the generation
    that killed Kung-Fu."

    ....step.

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    From my limited understanding, It seems that when your arms raise, you should still sink and swallow.Foa chum tun toe.
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
    Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"

    "I will not be part of the generation
    that killed Kung-Fu."

    ....step.

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    Thanks Ten Tigers. Some good points!

    As for the:

    From my limited understanding, It seems that when your arms raise, you should still sink and swallow.
    It is my understanding that this relates more to the internal Expression / Intention than the outward physical appearance.

    Ron Goninan
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    White Crane Research Institute Inc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minghequan View Post
    Thanks Ten Tigers. Some good points!

    As for the:



    It is my understanding that this relates more to the internal Expression / Intention than the outward physical appearance.
    It is both, but not so much the appearance, that would be simply skin and hair. To execute power of this type, there must be internal mechanisms working along with intention. The body sinks, the sacrum tucks, the stance is rooted, the dan tien draws in, while the body both expands outward, AND contracts inward. Rise fall swallow spit, all at the same time.
    From looking at your execution, your rooot was compromised and your breath was not sunk to the dan tien. (Hei chum dan tien, yeu mah hop yat.) When you can integrate these, then you will have good structure.
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
    Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"

    "I will not be part of the generation
    that killed Kung-Fu."

    ....step.

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    Interesting. It's hard to understand "feel" by simply watching a vid but I welcome your intentions.

    The difference between the "closed" and "opened" door methods is in the details (inches) i.e. the precise body structure and alignments. Therefore it begins with the Shou Fa which then requires even more precision (fraction of an inch) in the Shen Fa. Any defect in the Shou Fa is greatly magnified in the Shen Fa, which in the heat of the battle presents a skilled opponent with a huge target to exploit upon. It doesn't matter with an unskilled opponent as anything you use will work.

    The expression shown is Large or Open Door. The form is done far more internally, less expansive more details than that shown here.

    Wu He Dao Zhan Pai White Crane Gongfu is an internalization of three streams of Minghe (Calling Crane Boxing): Master Ruan Dong, my teacher Shifu Lucas Law (Huang Xing Xian Minghe) and Master Yu Dan Qui's wonderful rendition. We unlike so many others "out there" do not lay claim to be doing the "Exact Original (Whatever that may be!).

    Ron Goninan
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    White Crane Research Institute Inc
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    I agree with Ten Tigers. The weapon sets seem to be "off"- pieces of forms that are unrelated to Fujian White Crane.

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    Thanks for your comment guys.

    The weapons forms are more aligned with taiji as they are with White Crane (following in the thought of Huang Xing Xian who freely admitted to mixing his Crane & Taiji). Not perfect I know but we are doing the best we can.

    The SanZhan is our basic interpretation of SanZhan or Babulian with the movements somewhat exaggerated others can view. I am soon to film another rendition of this form which my teacher (Shifu Lucas Law who now lives in New Zealand) states:

    "The difference between the "closed" and "opened" door methods is in the details (inches) I.e. The precise body structure and alignments. Therefore it begins with the Shou Fa then requires even more precision (fraction of an inch) in the Shen Fa. Any defect in the Shou Fa is greatly magnified in the Shen Fa, which in the heat of the battle presents a skilled opponent with a huge target to exploit upon"

    Thanks again for your views!

    Ron Goninan
    China Fuzhou Zhenlan Crane Boxing Australia
    White Crane Research Institute Inc
    http://www.whitecranegongfu.info
    A seeker of the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minghequan View Post
    Thanks for your comment guys.

    The weapons forms are more aligned with taiji as they are with White Crane
    um..wait, what??!!

    sorry, I don't see any alignment, connection, similarity, etc with any style of Taiji.
    Although it does bear a striking resemblance to this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_weMn-N-rJ0
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
    Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"

    "I will not be part of the generation
    that killed Kung-Fu."

    ....step.

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    Tai Chi = Zhan Tong (1917- 2005) on to Shao Zhao-Ming ... Yang Taiji

    Ron Goninan
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    White Crane Research Institute Inc
    http://www.whitecranegongfu.info
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    (sigh..)
    y'know, ya try to help...
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
    Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"

    "I will not be part of the generation
    that killed Kung-Fu."

    ....step.

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    Its all made up - thats why it looks like it does not gel...

    Zero dan tien in any of it....

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    "X-Spurts" are everywhere nowdays.

    Can I see you guys in action? Can you post a vid of you guys doing a form?

    Ron Goninan
    China Fuzhou Zhenlan Crane Boxing Australia
    White Crane Research Institute Inc
    http://www.whitecranegongfu.info
    A seeker of the way

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