What style is this?

[KungFubar]

What style is this ? I think it looks great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrRAsptkRfc

[Kymus]

The white guy does Tae Kwon Do and the Asian guy does Wushu

[KungFubar]

The white guy does Tae Kwon Do and the Asian guy does Wushu

so that long staff form is TKD?

[MightyB]

What style is this ? I think it looks great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrRAsptkRfc

Sure does if you want to minimize the effective use of the range of the weapon (wide grip in the middle, hit with the ends of the weapon - you'd be better off using escrima sticks and would have the same effective range). It's all flash with a toothpick. I like the wushu one a lot better. Traditional Shaolin / TCMA staff is the way to go if you're interested in the staff / guan.

[MightyB]

Honestly, if you really like Karate's version, you might as well learn this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swSiKd6mmf0

[Kymus]

Honestly, if you really like Karate's version, you might as well learn this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swSiKd6mmf0

MightyB, is right (again).

From what I've seen of staff techniques, Kung Fu has it. A friend of a friend was training for his black belt test in Tang Soo Do and came to me for help with his staff work.

I sparred with the guy and his staff work was bad not sloppy, just bad. He had no concept of attack and defend; the only thing he could do was a short twirling movement which was ok for basic defense, but otherwise it was terrible. He never learned how to use a staff as a long weapon.

Like MightyB said, if you're going to use the ends of it like that and fight in medium/close range, you are far better off using escrima sticks.

[Kymus]

so that long staff form is TKD?

If you're talking about the white guy with his shirt off, yeah, that's typical TKD/Karate staff work that is 90% flash and 10% technique.

It's no different than the Karate demos with flip kicks and split kicks and all that other flashy stuff. It's BS, IMO.

[KungFubar]

If you're talking about the white guy with his shirt off, yeah, that's typical TKD/Karate staff work that is 90% flash and 10% technique.

It's no different than the Karate demos with flip kicks and split kicks and all that other flashy stuff. It's BS, IMO.

Would you think the same thing if a police man took out his baton and started 'twirling' it? I wouldnt. hehe

I think most people would run away from a guy that picked up a broom handle and started doing what that TKD guy was doing and yelling. Fight ends without violence. lol

Is there a single short staff in some KF style? so if someone pulls a knife you can use a short stick or handle laying around better than bare handed against a knife no?

[sanjuro_ronin]

Real "karate" bo work has minimal twirling, almost none really.

[Kymus]

Would you think the same thing if a police man took out his baton and started 'twirling' it? I wouldnt. hehe

Yes. Most of my weapons training is in Escrima. We primarily fight with sticks. Trust me; I understand weapons.

I think most people would run away from a guy that picked up a broom handle and started doing what that TKD guy was doing and yelling. Fight ends without violence. lol

It's a bluff; what hapens when the bluff is called? When someone else isn't scared?

Is there a single short staff in some KF style? so if someone pulls a knife you can use a short stick or handle laying around better than bare handed against a knife no?

Some Chinese arts teach the short stick (not sure what the term is) but I think it's rare and I know nothing about it as far as Kung Fu goes (my experience with that is totally Escrima). You will find the short staff taught in most arts, I believe. It's called the eyebrow height staff.

If you're looking for defense against a knife, I'd personally suggest Escrima. I'm not without my own bias, but I think they have the most realistic approach to weapon defense.

[Kymus]

Real "karate" bo work has minimal twirling, almost none really.

I kinda figured that it was a b@stardization of the art.

Is it typical - in the arts that haven't been watered down in America - for them to fight solely using the center? Are there applications that use long range attacks?

[KungFubar]

Yes. Most of my weapons training is in Escrima. We primarily fight with sticks. Trust me; I understand weapons.



It's a bluff; what hapens when the bluffe is called? When someone else isn't scared?



Some Chinese arts teach the short stick (not sure what the term is) but I think it's rare and I know nothing about it as far as Kung Fu goes (my experience with that is totally Escrima). You will find the short staff taught in most arts, I belief. It's called the eyebrow height staff.

If you're looking for defense against a knife, I'd personally suggest Escrima. I'm not without my own bias, but I think they have the most realistic approach to weapon defense.

Is there a single stick version of escrima or is there always two sticks?

[Kymus]

Is there a single stick version of escrima or is there always two sticks?

We do

• single stick
• double stick
• stick and dagger
• single dagger

You could do double dagger, but I have never seen it, personally.

[KungFubar]

We do

• single stick
• double stick
• stick and dagger
• single dagger

You could do double dagger, but I have never seen it, personally.

single stick sounds good and practical

[Kymus]

single stick sounds good and practical

It is, but your enemy may know lawyer-fu.

That's - largely - why I don't do challenge matches with whiney trolls on the internet. I humiliate them, they sue me. I'm not dumb.

Carry around a stick, and unless you're attacked with a weapon, you could face legal charges (more absurd things have happened).

You also need to ask yourself what you'll do when you don't have a stick with you.

There are so many variables.