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    Rising Crane, thanks for the clip.

    I'm surprised more gongfu people don't know this technique, it's standard in any sanda gym I've visited.

    This is a "matching" technique that is often taught alongside the first:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE03YfTVgAg

    They are not exactly bread and butter techniques for most people but they're good for getting people used to defending side kicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonzbane76 View Post
    I try to think of things in % to me there are to many dangers involved with trying to catch a kick coming full force. just my opinion.
    I feel the high/low percentage thing is a bit more subjective than people tend to admit. Side kick is a very high percentage technique for me. I've spent years training it and love to use it. This is considered lower percentage by many people. Single leg is low percentage for me, I'm still not comfortable with it, I have a friend who uses it all the time, high percentage for him.

    Guess what I'm getting at is some things are only low percentage because we don't train them often. Sure there a jab is always going to be more likely to land than a butterfly kick...but you get the point...
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    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
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    Used this move to successfully catch sidekicks and throw the opponent backwards in a live continuous sparring match (not full contact, but the kicks had some english on them.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonzbane76 View Post
    there are to many dangers involved with trying to catch a kick coming full force.
    This is why even if your arms may still be in the kicking range (in order to catch that kick), your body should move outside of the kicking range. If you can move your body to be ouside of your opponent's striking path, whether you can block that strike or not won't put youself in dangerous situation.
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    Why not catch, scoop or parry the leg off with one hand while covering the rest of the body with the other? If the foot is caught, THEN use the 2nd hand to aid and go for the takedown from there.

    Youknowwho already posted that of the various kicks, the front kick is the hardest to catch. That should be a clue that chasing it with both hands might work but there are higher percentage methods that may be safer if the opponent has a high skill level with the kick. If you are counting on fighting a less skilled opponent, well then there are a lot of things that work great, but that has never been who I trained to face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Arms View Post
    parry the leg off with one hand ...
    I agree that to parry is better method. You don't need to use both hands to get your opponent's leg. When your opponent kicks you, his leading hand should also be our concern. You should leave one hand to deal with his leading leg, and another hand to deal with his leading arm. Since front kick can make your opponent's both hands to reach you, you may have to deal with both of his hands, it's much more dangerous.

    It's just like "single leg". You don't need to use both hands to grab on your opponent's leading leg. If you use one hand to push your opponent's shoulder, his leading leg will come off the ground and move into your hand. If you can use one hand to "parry" your opponent's kicking leg, use another hand to push your opponent's leading arm, and use it to jam his back arm, you will have a successful entering.

    The "parry" method may be different from what OP intended to discuss here. It's like wrestler's single leg (both hands get the leg) vs. TCMA guy's single leg (one hand get the leg and one hand push the shoulder). There are different approaches.
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    I use this leg catch alot. It works well. As far as being open when using it.... you are open the entire time you fight in some way
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    This is a pretty bread and butter San Shou catch (indeed, it's even in Cung Le's book) . The key is that there is no "chasing with both hands". You CATCH the kick with both hands, you DEFEND the kick with your feet. It's very difficult to defend a decent linear kick with your arms, first line of defence should always be range control (as with linear punches). Once the kick has failed to reach you then it's relatively straightforward to catch it with both hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    If you respond with B Then I'll do A1;
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    Else If ...
    You write code?



    I like to side step and over hook. Then you walk in on em and take side control from the sweep pretty easily. It's worked pretty well for me. I've only done it with front and round kicks really. I usually just evade the side kicks and try to counter with my hands or a roundhouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    You write code?
    For the past 30 years. The right mouse button click to display a menu is my patent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    For the past 30 years. The right mouse button click to display a menu is my patent.
    No shit, huh? Cool.

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    i did this with my qi.

    Note: this is just a random patent i selected. im too lazy to look for the one hes referring to

    http://www.google.com/patents/US5530796
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    i did this with my qi.

    Note: this is just a random patent i selected. im too lazy to look for the one hes referring to

    http://www.google.com/patents/US5530796
    Thanks! Those are my good old days. Here is the 8/11/1987 right mouse button click pattern US4686522A.

    http://www.google.com/patents/US4686522

    Just allow me to brag a bit more (When you have reached to my age, you will have nothing left but bragging).

    http://imageshack.us/a/img12/5328/inventbk.jpg
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    wow that's pretty cool. haha i think you have more left than just bragging still.
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    If I patented something that everyone in the modern world was using I'd bring it up in polite conversation too...."Got you all right clicking like drones!" "Yes, that's it, pull that menu up like good little minions!"
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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