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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    you lift things up then put them down.
    There are more than just "lift".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf3wm...ature=youtu.be

    It can be replaced by this.

    http://imageshack.us/a/img198/6186/rotarytorso.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    beginners need something solid and simple.

    you often see stone locks being tossed around and juggled. when I learned stone locks, all I did was bicep curls and shoulder press with them.

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    Not sure you can call this "lift" either.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwSS8FmgJ3c

    This is also not "lift".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=7tAHsDXB_CM
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Not sure you can call this "lift" either.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwSS8FmgJ3c

    This is also not "lift".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=7tAHsDXB_CM
    all these fancy exercises is why the shanpuying never beat the mongols at the nadaam. all the mongols did was lift rocks.

    and tell your student to tighten his stomach and lower the weight, or he will break his back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    the shanpuying never beat the mongols at the nadaam.
    Do you have any historical record for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Do you have any historical record for this?
    I don't have any historical records. I don't care about Manchu wrestling and what manchus do.

    does kung fu need more funny little dancing exercises? whats the point of you posting these videos? will they help people in anyway, or just confuse them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    does kung fu need more funny little dancing exercises? whats the point of you posting these videos? will they help people in anyway, or just confuse them?
    Dancing exercise with weights is much better than just a dancing exercise. It is probably better than just weights as well.
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    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
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    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    you often see stone locks being tossed around and juggled. when I learned stone locks, all I did was bicep curls and shoulder press with them.
    I trained jab and cross with stone locks....same as with dumbbells...
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    Dancing exercise with weights is much better than just a dancing exercise. It is probably better than just weights as well.
    in kung fu its vital that you lift weights with the right spirit. you must have an angry face and lift with rage. its not appropriate to dance with weights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    does kung fu need more funny little dancing exercises? whats the point of you posting these videos? will they help people in anyway, or just confuse them?
    When did I post "funny little dancing exercises" in this thread? Are you talking about this? It's called "闯石担(Chuan Shi Dan) - swing double heads" which is not "举石担(Ju Shi Dan) - lift double heads".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwSS8FmgJ3c

    Here is an artical about how ancient Chinese got strong. It's in Chinese.

    小磨可以练手劲,大磨(驴拉的磨)可以练整劲。
    The small grindstone can be used to train the "hand" strength. The large grindstone can be used to train the "core" strength.

    The ancient Chinese "core" strength training is different from just "lift".

    http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_474601080100mrpu.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    in kung fu its vital that you lift weights with the right spirit. you must have an angry face and lift with rage. its not appropriate to dance with weights.
    Can you do an angry dance, like moshing?
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    Can you do an angry dance, like moshing?
    its not a joke. I quoted a Chinese general. no matter how light your weight is, even if its 5 pounds, you must lift it like its 1000 pounds. and you must lift with the spirit of attacking someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    its not a joke. I quoted a Chinese general. no matter how light your weight is, even if its 5 pounds, you must lift it like its 1000 pounds. and you must lift with the spirit of attacking someone.
    Aren't forms also meant to be trained in this fashion?
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    Aren't forms also meant to be trained in this fashion?
    Not all moves in the form are 100% committed attack. If it's just for "set up", 30% power should be enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    When did I post "funny little dancing exercises" in this thread? Are you talking about this? It's called "闯石担(Chuan Shi Dan) - swing double heads" which is not "举石担(Ju Shi Dan) - lift double heads".
    so why you didn't post "举石担(Ju Shi Dan) - lift double heads"?

    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post

    The ancient Chinese "core" strength training is different from just "lift".



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