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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    My dictionairies are in boxes in the basement, but I had the character, it is "fu" with a "sam dim soi" if you know what that means... in a classical dictionary it means a tiger cub

    That character, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runlikehell View Post

    That character, right?
    actually, yes, that is it
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLFNole View Post
    I believe some mistake Sup Ying Kuen in Hung Gar as 10 Animals when I think it is 5 Animals (Tiger, Dragon, Snake, Crane & Panther) & 5 Elements (Metal, Earth, Wood, Water & Fire).

    On a side note: CLF has deer as one of its 10 animals (albeit not in my lineage).



    Interesting...

    Are the Hung Gar 5 elements the same as the Hsing-i 5 elements (ie: 5 fists)?
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    The names of the elements are the same, but the techniques are Wong Fei Hung's interpretation of the long arm techniques of Lama from Wong Yan Lum.

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    Yeah, pretty much the elements (in WFHs Hung Gar) are considered to be the different long arm techniques but the more you dig into the system the elements become more than that. I was starting to get a glimpse of them until I moved to another style. Its some very interesting stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brothernumber9 View Post
    "tiger cub" made me lol. I 'm sure you were laughing when you typed it.
    I believe that while Biu means tiger cub what it refers to is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_golden_cat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gash View Post
    I believe that while Biu means tiger cub what it refers to is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_golden_cat
    quite possilbe....
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    Some other systems may have a deer and/or tiger cub. Hung Fut does not. i don't know off the top of my head if Hung Fut has a 10 animal form, but most branches have a small 5 animals and a big 5 animals sets, although both sets contain techniques from more than just 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gash View Post
    I believe that while Biu means tiger cub what it refers to is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_golden_cat
    Thanks, I had heard that it referred to a medium sized species of wild cat. Nice to get some confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    10 animals of southern kung fu

    tiger
    crane
    leopard
    snake
    dragon

    elephant
    monkey
    horse
    lion
    tiger cub
    The five upper animals are always the same, but there is some variations on the five lower animals depending on the style or lineage. But the ones you posted are the same as found In Hung Fut and in the ten animal Hung Gar practiced in the Ha Say Fu region. Although more or less those same ten are found in some other systems too (CLF), usually if there is a difference it is only with one or two of the lower animals.

    But finding an actual combined Ten Animal Boxing set is comparatively rare. Usually there are separate sets for each, but occasionally you do find a combined form.
    Such as this Hung Fut combined ten animal set:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijjb3D3K5cQ
    From what I read online these sets come directly from Hung Gar, does anyone know who or where the Hung Gar portion of the Hung Fut system came from?
    Interesting it lists the ten animals as 龍,蛇,虎,豹,鶴,獅,象,馬,猴,刁. Meaning Dragon, Snake, Tiger, Leopard, Crane and Lion, Elephant, Horse, Monkey, and 刁 Diao which isn't an animal, the character has the meaning or tricky, underhanded, sly deceitful, or wicked. I am guessing that this comes from the similarity in sound to 彪 Biao, Tiger cub or Golden Jungle Cat. Although I also wonder if those characteristics are traditionally associated with this animal.

    Here are the individual ten animal forms from the Ha Say Fu Ten Animal style Hung Gar.

    Five Upper Shapes:
    from the Maonan district of Maoming prefecture

    Dragon:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwrL_aMC_dM

    Snake:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NrOjCI8MKc

    Tiger:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Xxl_TM70I

    Leopard:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCFnNQhKXjM

    Crane:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxqh1sREiBs

    Five Lower Shapes:
    from Gaozhou county of Maoming prefecture, demonstrated by master Lei Cheung Tim

    Lion:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2PZwPNd29s

    Elephant:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82VXbSm1670

    Horse:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ZelRD8-vw

    Monkey:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3rvstUOpGk

    Tiger Cub / Jungle Cat:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVgEPqEUYbs

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    One of the Hung Gar systems I studied had a 10 animals form, and Choy Li Fut has two. I believe LKFMDC's CLF has one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gash View Post
    One of the Hung Gar systems I studied had a 10 animals form, and Choy Li Fut has two. I believe LKFMDC's CLF has one.
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    TeaSerpent,

    "on the five lower animals depending on the style or lineage. But the ones you posted are the same as found In Hung Fut and in the ten animal Hung Gar practiced in the Ha Say Fu region"

    Excellent input..thank you. Re: Ha Say Fu being a 10 animal. I was under the impression that the HSF Hung Kuen only had 5 like the LSW/TF lineages but the main difference is that there is a separate set for each of the 5 animals. Are you saying this is not true? If so, there does not seem to be any masters in the States who teach the remaining 5 animals in either solo sets or in a combination set.

    When you state "lower" animals, am I to understand that lower in this case refers to less often seen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaterthanNever View Post
    TeaSerpent,

    "on the five lower animals depending on the style or lineage. But the ones you posted are the same as found In Hung Fut and in the ten animal Hung Gar practiced in the Ha Say Fu region"

    Excellent input..thank you. Re: Ha Say Fu being a 10 animal. I was under the impression that the HSF Hung Kuen only had 5 like the LSW/TF lineages but the main difference is that there is a separate set for each of the 5 animals. Are you saying this is not true? If so, there does not seem to be any masters in the States who teach the remaining 5 animals in either solo sets or in a combination set.

    When you state "lower" animals, am I to understand that lower in this case refers to less often seen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Rob View Post
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/4...wkendoinfon-21

    I think this book by Kwan Tak Hing goes on about the Hung family and its fists...could that be the lead?? His foster father was Fok Hung,
    I think the ten animals of this intended book [as I tried the link and got a kendo something]...The Intended Book (perhaps)

    This book featuring that actor uses the Shao-lin /Choyli-Fut/Hung kuen five, but includes might also include a Bear form. Hsing-I might have a bear form as well as Ba Gua, but it might not be a Hung-Fot 10 animals--those were mentioned earlier perhaps if you include the substitute for the tiger-cub.

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