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    Forms of Hung Fut? 10 animals?

    I read somewhere that Hung Fut has 10 animals? I'm aware that its roots have some origin in Hung Ga. Can someone please list the other 10 remaining animals?

    Also, can someone please post a list of forms/sets of the style? Thanks

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    10 and 12 animals seem to belong to Xingyi (Hsing I)
    Hung Gar is big on 5 animals (snake, crane, dragon, leopard and tiger) but also has "10 killing hands" you think maybe it was this you heard of?
    I haven't heard of 10 animals in a common place way within Hung Gar.
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    10 animals of southern kung fu

    tiger
    crane
    leopard
    snake
    dragon

    elephant
    monkey
    horse
    lion
    tiger cub
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    I believe some mistake Sup Ying Kuen in Hung Gar as 10 Animals when I think it is 5 Animals (Tiger, Dragon, Snake, Crane & Panther) & 5 Elements (Metal, Earth, Wood, Water & Fire).

    On a side note: CLF has deer as one of its 10 animals (albeit not in my lineage).

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    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/4...wkendoinfon-21

    I think this book by Kwan Tak Hing goes on about the Hung family and its fists...could that be the lead?? His foster father was Fok Hung,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Rob View Post
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/4...wkendoinfon-21

    I think this book by Kwan Tak Hing goes on about the Hung family and its fists...could that be the lead?? His foster father was Fok Hung,
    I think the ten animals of this intended book [as I tried the link and got a kendo something]...The Intended Book (perhaps)

    This book featuring that actor uses the Shao-lin /Choyli-Fut/Hung kuen five, but includes might also include a Bear form. Hsing-I might have a bear form as well as Ba Gua, but it might not be a Hung-Fot 10 animals--those were mentioned earlier perhaps if you include the substitute for the tiger-cub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLFNole View Post
    I believe some mistake Sup Ying Kuen in Hung Gar as 10 Animals when I think it is 5 Animals (Tiger, Dragon, Snake, Crane & Panther) & 5 Elements (Metal, Earth, Wood, Water & Fire).

    On a side note: CLF has deer as one of its 10 animals (albeit not in my lineage).
    WFH hung ga = 5 animals and 5 elements
    not really "sup ying" but "ng ying ng haang kuen" is hard to wrap tongue around

    There is village hung kuen and hung Fut with 10 animals
    I hve seen various lists for CLF 10 animals
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    "tiger cub" made me lol. I 'm sure you were laughing when you typed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLFNole View Post
    I believe some mistake Sup Ying Kuen in Hung Gar as 10 Animals when I think it is 5 Animals (Tiger, Dragon, Snake, Crane & Panther) & 5 Elements (Metal, Earth, Wood, Water & Fire).

    On a side note: CLF has deer as one of its 10 animals (albeit not in my lineage).



    Interesting...

    Are the Hung Gar 5 elements the same as the Hsing-i 5 elements (ie: 5 fists)?
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    The names of the elements are the same, but the techniques are Wong Fei Hung's interpretation of the long arm techniques of Lama from Wong Yan Lum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    10 animals of southern kung fu

    tiger
    crane
    leopard
    snake
    dragon

    elephant
    monkey
    horse
    lion
    tiger cub
    The five upper animals are always the same, but there is some variations on the five lower animals depending on the style or lineage. But the ones you posted are the same as found In Hung Fut and in the ten animal Hung Gar practiced in the Ha Say Fu region. Although more or less those same ten are found in some other systems too (CLF), usually if there is a difference it is only with one or two of the lower animals.

    But finding an actual combined Ten Animal Boxing set is comparatively rare. Usually there are separate sets for each, but occasionally you do find a combined form.
    Such as this Hung Fut combined ten animal set:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijjb3D3K5cQ
    From what I read online these sets come directly from Hung Gar, does anyone know who or where the Hung Gar portion of the Hung Fut system came from?
    Interesting it lists the ten animals as 龍,蛇,虎,豹,鶴,獅,象,馬,猴,刁. Meaning Dragon, Snake, Tiger, Leopard, Crane and Lion, Elephant, Horse, Monkey, and 刁 Diao which isn't an animal, the character has the meaning or tricky, underhanded, sly deceitful, or wicked. I am guessing that this comes from the similarity in sound to 彪 Biao, Tiger cub or Golden Jungle Cat. Although I also wonder if those characteristics are traditionally associated with this animal.

    Here are the individual ten animal forms from the Ha Say Fu Ten Animal style Hung Gar.

    Five Upper Shapes:
    from the Maonan district of Maoming prefecture

    Dragon:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwrL_aMC_dM

    Snake:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NrOjCI8MKc

    Tiger:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Xxl_TM70I

    Leopard:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCFnNQhKXjM

    Crane:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxqh1sREiBs

    Five Lower Shapes:
    from Gaozhou county of Maoming prefecture, demonstrated by master Lei Cheung Tim

    Lion:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2PZwPNd29s

    Elephant:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82VXbSm1670

    Horse:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ZelRD8-vw

    Monkey:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3rvstUOpGk

    Tiger Cub / Jungle Cat:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVgEPqEUYbs

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    One of the Hung Gar systems I studied had a 10 animals form, and Choy Li Fut has two. I believe LKFMDC's CLF has one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gash View Post
    One of the Hung Gar systems I studied had a 10 animals form, and Choy Li Fut has two. I believe LKFMDC's CLF has one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    10 animals of southern kung fu

    tiger
    crane
    leopard
    snake
    dragon

    elephant
    monkey
    horse
    lion
    tiger cub
    No donkey?

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    Thanks all for your fine commentary. I'm clear on the animals aspect. Thanks. To reiterate my original question..


    Does anyone have a list of Hung Fut forms? Thanks again.

    LTN

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