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    Has anyone trained with Master Su Yu-Chang?

    Master Su Yu-Chang teaches:

    1. 6 Harmonies Praying Mantis
    2. 7 Star Praying Mantis
    3. 8 Step Praying Mantis
    4. Plum Blossom Praying Mantis
    5. Secret Gate Praying Mantis
    6. Bajiquan
    7. Piguachuan
    8. Baguazhang
    9. Chen style Taijiquan
    10. Yang style Taijiquan


    I am really curious as to how his curriculum is set up! I tried googling, and students of his from Spain and Norway list on their website a list of forms for each system (empty hand, weapons, and qigong). This made me think that maybe each art is taught individually and students simply choose what they want to focus on.

    However, most students these days are likely new to martial arts and rarely are familiar with the nuances of different styles. This makes me ponder as to whether they are taught all together as a sort of mish-mash.

    On Master Su's website for this school in NYC, it says:

    New students begin studying Tanglang, Pakua, Hsing-I or Tai Chi, but all styles, including Pikua and Pachi, are taught during all classes.
    Depending on how you pick it apart, it could mean the mish-mash idea or the individual art idea.
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    You can consider Pikua as joints loosing method and Baji as power generating method, both can be integrated into almost any system that you are training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    You can consider Pikua as joints loosing method and Baji as power generating method, both can be integrated into almost any system that you are training.
    I kinda had a feeling about that, but I wasn't sure.

    I know that Master Su's mantis has some baji jing to it. I've never studied Baji, but looking at the forms, I can see the power generation and I can see how one could apply that to a separate technique. I'm curious how pigua's whipping power would be applied to other arts tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by HmorenoM View Post
    I've not trained with him, but i have 2 great friends who trained with him, and their (my friends') teachers are his disciples. Here's a web page when you can find his curriculum for the style he teaches (the web page is in spanish)

    Secret Gate Praying Mantis
    http://www.centropachitanglang.com/t...ng-lang-chuan/

    8 Steps Praying Mantis
    http://www.centropachitanglang.com/t...papu-tang-lang

    6 Harmonies Praying Mantis
    http://www.centropachitanglang.com/t...hoe-tang-lang/

    7 Stars / Plum Blossom Praying Mantis
    http://www.centropachitanglang.com/t...hua-tang-lang/

    Taiji
    http://www.centropachitanglang.com/t...tai-chi-chuan/

    Baji
    http://www.centropachitanglang.com/t...e-pachi-chuan/

    Pigua
    http://www.centropachitanglang.com/temario-de-pikua/

    Bagua
    http://www.centropachitanglang.com/temario-de-pakua/

    Xing Yi
    http://www.centropachitanglang.com/temario-de-hsing-i/


    Here's the web page of the school he founded in Venezuela some time ago
    http://www.pachitaichichuan.com/inde...d=18&Itemid=35


    I hope this can help you


    For more info you can search in facebook for Willy Rivero (https://www.facebook.com/willy.rivero)

    He's Fu Shun Nan and Tai She Che's disciple and a Su Yu Chang student
    Thanks for the input! I've seen the listing of forms on other foreign sites. I'm just trying to figure out how it's taught in class.

    How is your friend's english? Cuz, I speak maybe 3 words of Spanish

    Oh, and do you mind my asking how long he trained with Master Su (while he was still in Venezuela)? I'm just curious
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    Ok, I'll try to contact him when I have the time. Thanks again for the info!
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    that's a lot of forms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    that's a lot of forms.
    Yes, makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    that's a lot of forms.
    Not when you consider how many forms are in the Seven Star and Plum Flower Mantis families. Those are just a fraction of many mantis school's curriculum.
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