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    SLT & Sam Chien

    Hi does anyone have expeirence of Siu Lim Tao and the 3 Battles kata used in Goju and south shaolin styles?

    Paul
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    I have done a bit of chow gar spm which has the sarm bo jin 1st form

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    I've done Go Ju Sanchin.
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    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
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    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Good clip here. Watch from 7 mins

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jpTp7yJdUA

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    Some practitioners of Five Ancestors Fist (Ngo Cho Kun, Wu Zu Quan) say their Sam Chien form is the root for Uechi Ryu and Goju Ryu Sanchin .

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    How can a understanding of it help your wing chun siu nim tao?

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    I was taught dynamic iso-tonic elbow during slt. It develops strong joint angle control. You have to do the tan sao 1-2 minutes out, huen, Jum, wu, 1-2 minutes , fook 1-2 minutes.....repeat as form. The arm should not look like it is moving during this section of the form.
    When I started classes it was a routine to bow to a picture of yip man, light a stick of incense in complete silence and then the large group, silently, would do slt and the slow elbow tension section, that was a real workout with holding the stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T England View Post
    Hi does anyone have expeirence of Siu Lim Tao and the 3 Battles kata used in Goju and south shaolin styles?

    Paul
    www.moifa.co.uk
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    FWIW- Ip Man's wing chun and sam bo chin developmental paths are quite different from each other.
    Of course you will hear different views.

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    I have done the Okinawan/Japanese versions of Sanchin:
    Okinwana Goju, Kyokushin, Uechi-ryu
    And the sanjian of Fujian White Crane.
    And the sam boo gin of SPM
    And one of the WuZu versions.

    And SLT.

    SLT has, as I was taught it, has virtually NOTHING to do with any of them.
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    He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !

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    Joy is correct - completely different engines.
    What chi sau is, or isn't, or is, or wait, what is it..: http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...2&postcount=90

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    Quote Originally Posted by X_plosion View Post
    Some practitioners of Five Ancestors Fist (Ngo Cho Kun, Wu Zu Quan) say their Sam Chien form is the root for Uechi Ryu and Goju Ryu Sanchin .
    Okinawan Goju's is from Fujian White Crane.
    Uechi-ryu's seems like a "blend" of WuZu and dragon shape boxing.
    Uechi though does have a lots of SPM influence in of itself.
    Psalms 144:1
    Praise be my Lord my Rock,
    He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !

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    Goju aka hard soft, uses different focus to vt. But dynamic iso tonic / iso metrics play a large part of our training. One can increase stamina, joint specific focus on strengthening and breathing control. Guys who train this a lot have very "heavy" relaxed arms. Not to mention stamina to maintain strong balanced mobile stances, coupled to the " arms " we have structure ; )
    Last edited by Sihing73; 06-24-2013 at 11:31 AM.

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    Hung Ga's TSK

    Does Hung Ga's "Iron Wire" form more closely resemble San Chien than SLT?

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