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    SC (Shuai Chiao or Shuai Jiao) - Chinese Wrestling

    I would like to start a general SC thread so we can discuss all SC subjects here.

    This is the SC form that is taught in Taiwan. It may be different from that's taught in China. It's simple, easy to learn, and with different flavor than the TCMA forms.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo7iYiILCHI

    This bag (16 lb - 23 lb) throwing is interest and can get a lot of benefit to train.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSb2k...ature=youtu.be

    All discussions are welcome here.
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    Breaking a thing down to its simplest components is always a good thing.
    Just do it and all is good. Trying to obfuscate the above, is what many will do but as I am simple minded......

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I would like to start a general SC thread so we can discuss all SC subjects here.

    This is the SC form that is taught in Taiwan. It may be different from that's taught in China. It's simple, easy to learn, and with different flavor than the TCMA forms.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo7iYiILCHI


    All discussions are welcome here.


    Nice post.


    We still do all of those drills verbatim...with one or two exceptions.
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    This is how Shihfu Jeng Hsin Ping taught the "forms"
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    Slightly on topic..

    I really love SJ, but it'll be a while until I have the opportunity to train. I figured it couldn't hurt to start with the body conditioning anyway. That, and, lately I've been doing more exercise via Kung Fu (forms for cardio, then I just started doing taiji ball as well which I'm loving), so the more variety I have, the less I'll get bored and the more I'll do.

    So I wanted to do some of the stone lock training like in this clip. I don't have the cash for a stone lock right now, so I was curious on recommendations for an alternative. I tried a milk jug filled with water, but after the 4th time dropping it, it exploded . I was thinking of maybe taping it up like crazy. It's not the same as a lock, but it's similar and it's free, so that means I can start immediately!

    I'm also curious as to suggestions on the brick used; I'm thinking maybe 5lbs to start, then move up to 10lbs later? Do hardware stores even sell these things by weight or is it more by size? Hardware stores are foreign to me and very confusing
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    The milk jug filled with water has advantage such as:

    - Cheap to get it.
    - You can change weight.
    - You can take it with you on trip.

    As long as you try not to drop it, it will serve the purpose.

    In Home depo, you can find clay pieces. By using different number of clay pieces, you can have different weight for your bricks.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erwaKVeJmB8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kymus View Post
    So I wanted to do some of the stone lock training like in this clip. I don't have the cash for a stone lock right now, so I was curious on recommendations for an alternative. I tried a milk jug filled with water, but after the 4th time dropping it, it exploded . I was thinking of maybe taping it up like crazy. It's not the same as a lock, but it's similar and it's free, so that means I can start immediately!
    I'm not sure how much stone locks cost but maybe using cheap red plastic gas cans could be a less expensive alternative. They come in different sizes for different weights, and you could fill them with sand instead of water. Even if you use water they are not as likely to explode when you drop them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    The milk jug filled with water has advantage such as:

    - Cheap to get it.
    - You can change weight.
    - You can take it with you on trip.

    As long as you try not to drop it, it will serve the purpose.

    In Home depo, you can find clay pieces. By using different number of clay pieces, you can have different weight for your bricks.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erwaKVeJmB8
    I'll look in to that, thanks!

    But yeah, dropping that jug is killer. I probably shouldn't try to switch hands by tossing
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenBrain View Post
    I'm not sure how much stone locks cost
    http://www.atomicathletic.com/stone-...-shi-shuo.html



    but maybe using cheap red plastic gas cans could be a less expensive alternative. They come in different sizes for different weights, and you could fill them with sand instead of water. Even if you use water they are not as likely to explode when you drop them.
    Great idea!!
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    like that old japanese zen monk that grabs white woman student titties to awaken them to zen, i grab titties of kung fu people to awaken them to truth.
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    Re: Yee Hung Gar

    Greetings,

    Re: Home made stone locks,

    The plastic bottles that are used for laundry detergent are of better quality. Fill with water of pennies. Reinforce bottle with heavy tape. Can also be used for mook yee pai training.


    mickey

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings,

    Re: Home made stone locks,

    The plastic bottles that are used for laundry detergent are of better quality. Fill with water of pennies. Reinforce bottle with heavy tape. Can also be used for mook yee pai training.


    mickey
    Good idea, Mickey! I was gonna ask about a water jug but I think that a laundry detergent bottle would be about the same price and likely sturdier.
    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    like that old japanese zen monk that grabs white woman student titties to awaken them to zen, i grab titties of kung fu people to awaken them to truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kymus View Post

    So I wanted to do some of the stone lock training like in this clip. I don't have the cash for a stone lock right now, so I was curious on recommendations for an alternative.
    kymus, Im so sorry to rustle your jimmies, but this is for fun. real stone lock training is boring and used like like dumbbell. bicep curls, should raise, etc. under 20 pound stone lock is called flower lock, its for playing and street performance.

    so sorry, so sorry.
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    We actually have short forms similar to those. And the applications are throws. My Sigung studied in Taiwan. I wonder if its the same lineage and the movements just got diluted along the way. hmmmm......
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    these shuai Jiao drills are very valuable for cross referencing with longfist. longfist people often confuse punch for throw and throw for a strike. this way you clear confusion about techniques.

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    I like mickeys plastic laundry detergent bottles idea. We use the 150fl oz size at our house and they are the same shape as those locks.

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