Pure System

[YouKnowWho]

If I try to search for my ancient root and DNA, I may find this.

http://imageshack.us/a/img24/8929/sc2cv.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/8172/sc1p.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/2203/sc4fu.jpg

Why do I want to do that for?

[lkfmdc]

If I try to search for my ancient root and DNA, I may find this.

http://imageshack.us/a/img24/8929/sc2cv.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/8172/sc1p.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/2203/sc4fu.jpg

Why do I want to do that for?

I have been martial arts ever since I was a kid. I somehow I always knew things that they passed off as "tradition" were not right...

We learn this technique, it is the third thing we learn, but we can't use it in sparring? WHY?

Another school, there is no sparring, hah hah, this is clearly a joke, time to move on

School tells me they don't kick, well, what if I kick?

Lots of TCMA say they don't wrestle? Well, anyone who has ever done any sparring, much less actual fighitng, kinows there is going to be wrestling

[YouKnowWho]

If I try to used this "steal a peach under leaves - groin strike" in sparring,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys8LziWtHdE

I would always get hit on my face. Since this is the 1st form that student has to learn in my system. I told my guys that the purpose of this move is to "bend down, grab a handfull of dirt (or sand), and then throw at your opponent's face". One of my smart ass guys asked me, "What if you stand on pavement road?" I was speechless. Why did the original form creator put this move into his form? I have no idea.

[lkfmdc]

If I try to used this move in sparring,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys8LziWtHdE

I would always get hit on my face. Since this is the 1st form that student has to learn in my system. I told my guys that the purpose of this move is to "bend down, grab a handfull of dirt (or sand) and then throw at your opponent's face". One of my guys asked me, "What if you stand on pavement road?" I was speechless. Why did the original form creator put this move into his form? I have no idea.

I think (hope) you are being funny.....

right hand is striking the groin, left hand should have already moved the arm/punch aside.... or circled to trap as you turned....

not the best technique, but it has some potential I think

PS: I also think this is example of how to 'simplify" movement old teachers left out angles, sometimes forgetting that without the angle the technique is worthless

[YouKnowWho]

moved the arm/punch aside....

If that's the case, the left hand should move sideway instead of downward.

[lkfmdc]

If that's the case, the left hand should move sideway instead of downward.

student learned it wrong and then taught it wrong

or the teacher thought is should be the other way

or the teacher didn't know the real application

or the teacher wanted to hide the real application

so many ways for these things to get messed up

[bawang]

If I try to used this "steal a peach under leaves - groin strike" in sparring,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys8LziWtHdE

I would always get hit on my face. Since this is the 1st form that student has to learn in my system. I told my guys that the purpose of this move is to "bend down, grab a handfull of dirt (or sand), and then throw at your opponent's face". One of my smart ass guys asked me, "What if you stand on pavement road?" I was speechless. Why did the original form creator put this move into his form? I have no idea.

cuz ur doing it rong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxQWe...ature=youtu.be

[MightyB]

cuz ur doing it rong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxQWe...ature=youtu.be

Is this you? The infamous Bawang finally revealed!?!?!?!?!

[MightyB]

How will these principals effect your kung fu?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoQB8pBxz7U

[David Jamieson]

How will these principals effect your kung fu?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoQB8pBxz7U

I studied boxing before I started kung fu. I never dropped the boxing big 4.

[sanjuro_ronin]

How will these principals effect your kung fu?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoQB8pBxz7U

Getting punched in the face is a sure way to have your kung fu effected.

[Neeros]

How will these principals effect your kung fu?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoQB8pBxz7U

They wouldn't really. Those principles are excellent for boxing, not so good for kung fu.

A good boxing stance isn't a good kung fu stance, and a good kung fu stance isn't a good boxing stance.

He mentioned for a punch to push into the ground and lead off the front foot, and keep the heel of the back foot up. In kung fu you keep both feet planted, lead off the back foot and utilize waist rotation for power.

If you don't utilize the foundational principles and skills of kung fu, yet you try to apply kung fu techniques to the foundational principles of boxing then are you actually using kung fu?

[bawang]

Is this you? The infamous Bawang finally revealed!?!?!?!?!

I no know who dat is. I am the tightey witey just like yuos.

[Kymus]

I no know who dat is. I am the tightey witey just like yuos.

[Kymus]

Another school, there is no sparring, hah hah, this is clearly a joke, time to move on

I mention this story a lot, mostly because it surprises me. I went to this school for a few months. The guy running the school learned in Taiwan from a handful of masters. He was a lineage holder and all that. He's also in the USKS hall of fame.

Sparring? Only point sparring. Continuous sparring was a rarity, I was told. IMO, the point-sparring thing was likely for tournaments.

Lots of TCMA say they don't wrestle? Well, anyone who has ever done any sparring, much less actual fighitng, kinows there is going to be wrestling

No no no no no

An invisible guy breaks up the fight and both fighters start on their feet again.