Pure System

[lkfmdc]

If I try to search for my ancient root and DNA, I may find this.

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Why do I want to do that for?

I have been martial arts ever since I was a kid. I somehow I always knew things that they passed off as "tradition" were not right...

We learn this technique, it is the third thing we learn, but we can't use it in sparring? WHY?

Another school, there is no sparring, hah hah, this is clearly a joke, time to move on

School tells me they don't kick, well, what if I kick?

Lots of TCMA say they don't wrestle? Well, anyone who has ever done any sparring, much less actual fighitng, kinows there is going to be wrestling

[lkfmdc]

Here's the question in my mind, if you have two options, or 3 or more, in a situation, which do you choose? If you are a striker who has a little x-training to understand grappling, do you grapple or strike? Can you afford the time to think about it?

If I can see you are a good grappler but not a good striker, I want to strike you

If you are a striker with no wresting, I want to wrestle and/or submit you

When you punch, I kick

When you kick, I punch

If you wrestle, I knee

If you knee, I wrestle

The art of war talks about "local superiority",,,, you fight them where they are weak, not where they are strong

[YouKnowWho]

If I try to used this "steal a peach under leaves - groin strike" in sparring,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys8LziWtHdE

I would always get hit on my face. Since this is the 1st form that student has to learn in my system. I told my guys that the purpose of this move is to "bend down, grab a handfull of dirt (or sand), and then throw at your opponent's face". One of my smart ass guys asked me, "What if you stand on pavement road?" I was speechless. Why did the original form creator put this move into his form? I have no idea.

[lkfmdc]

If I try to used this move in sparring,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys8LziWtHdE

I would always get hit on my face. Since this is the 1st form that student has to learn in my system. I told my guys that the purpose of this move is to "bend down, grab a handfull of dirt (or sand) and then throw at your opponent's face". One of my guys asked me, "What if you stand on pavement road?" I was speechless. Why did the original form creator put this move into his form? I have no idea.

I think (hope) you are being funny.....

right hand is striking the groin, left hand should have already moved the arm/punch aside.... or circled to trap as you turned....

not the best technique, but it has some potential I think

PS: I also think this is example of how to 'simplify" movement old teachers left out angles, sometimes forgetting that without the angle the technique is worthless

[LFJ]

And what are "principles" when we talk about combat? There is only what works and what does not, and anyone looking to fight and survive only cares about what works...

A lot of things work, but that is not the only thing to care about. In fighting, ending quickly is also important because the longer the fight proceeds the greater the chance of being seriously injured. So we must also care about efficiency. We don't go into a fight with sportive mentality, knowing we have several rounds and decide to feel out the opponent during the first round.

So one such principle of efficiency is constant forward pressure. Some styles may re-chamber a kick and bring the leg back and place it down before moving forward, which may give the opponent the opportunity to reset. Adhering to your principle you'd turn the kick into a forwarding step to keep the pressure on the opponent with relentless attack.

See chambered kicks may well work, but it is within some system principles to eat up time and every gap with forward pressure to ensure a quick end. You may win either way, but it is possible to adhere to your principles for valid reasons, keeping a "pure system".

[YouKnowWho]

moved the arm/punch aside....

If that's the case, the left hand should move sideway instead of downward.

[lkfmdc]

A lot of things work, but that is not the only thing to care about. In fighting, ending quickly is also important because the longer the fight proceeds the greater the chance of being seriously injured.

many times you don't have a choice, it WILL go on longer than you want

people who practice in their kwoon often think it will be easy to end a fight. They think some technique will do so much damage

when you see a real fight, when you have experienced it, you understand things are NOT that simple...

Things are done and happen that you would have sworn would result in a KO or death and yet the fight goes on....

So we must also care about efficiency. We don't go into a fight with sportive mentality, knowing we have several rounds and decide to feel out the opponent during the first round.

you'd better learn how to pace yourself, or you will run out of gas and find out that the other person is still alive, fine, fighting, and looking to kill you

So one such principle of efficiency is constant forward pressure.

forward pressure without proper conditioning is an excellent way to gas out and get slaughtered... it's one of those things those mere "sport fighters" learn rather quickly

[lkfmdc]

If that's the case, the left hand should move sideway instead of downward.

student learned it wrong and then taught it wrong

or the teacher thought is should be the other way

or the teacher didn't know the real application

or the teacher wanted to hide the real application

so many ways for these things to get messed up

[Yum Cha]

If I can see you are a good grappler but not a good striker, I want to strike you

If you are a striker with no wresting, I want to wrestle and/or submit you

When you punch, I kick

When you kick, I punch

If you wrestle, I knee

If you knee, I wrestle

The art of war talks about "local superiority",,,, you fight them where they are weak, not where they are strong

We agree in principle, but not in execution. "Fight them where they are weak....." can mean a lot of things, including using surprise and unfamiliar attacks.
This is my rant, you don't respond to your opponent wherever possible, but make him respond to you. Even if you step right, forcing him to adjust, you are starting to dictate the engagement.
Just like BJJ says to consolidate, then submit, I think the same, consolidate an advantageous situation and attack. That situation may be an expected attack from the other person, with their hands because you wrong footed them, or the like. Initially attacking their balance to weaken a counter, and then pouncing like a tiger with whatever you got, generally knees and elbows, break a knee if you get the chance. All over rover.
Straight blast is what Lee called it, its nothing new. And you gotta have plan B.....

[lkfmdc]

This is my rant, you don't respond to your opponent wherever possible, but make him respond to you.

some people are aggressive, others are counter fighters, the style can not make the man, only inform him

[LFJ]

Things are done and happen that you would have sworn would result in a KO or death and yet the fight goes on....

That's why you don't take the pressure off.

But guaranteed, get your fingers locked deep around an esophagus and it's game over for anyone.

you'd better learn how to pace yourself, or you will run out of gas and find out that the other person is still alive, fine, fighting, and looking to kill you

Economy of motion is another principle that goes hand-in-hand.
We're not throwing big swings and head height kicks.

forward pressure without proper conditioning is an excellent way to gas out and get slaughtered... it's one of those things those mere "sport fighters" learn rather quickly

Or any martial artist...duh? Why would you even need to suggest that?

You may be pacing yourself too much.

[lkfmdc]

But guaranteed, get your fingers locked deep around an esophagus and it's game over for anyone.

OMG what a TOTAL CLOWN YOU ARE... what's next, pulling their beating heart out of their body before they die and showing it to them

you've never had a real fight have you?

[LFJ]

You've never fought without gloves, have you?

[lkfmdc]

you are a clown... the fact you don't even know how stupid you sound makes you an even bigger clown

you might as well tell us all how you can fly and melt metal with your breath.....

[LFJ]

This is where I learned my techniques: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyXohnrEXVA