Gun defense

[IronFist]

[lkfmdc]

and then you grab his wind pipe and squeeze!

(and STEP!)

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[MightyB]

and then you grab his wind pipe and squeeze!

(and STEP!)

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[lkfmdc]

that right there is the deadly art of taiji

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfgMWKv37HY

[trubblman]

that right there is the deadly art of taiji

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfgMWKv37HY

Another poor example of gun defense not the technique but why would a pistol wield er approach this closely? A pistol is as effective at 3 inches as it is from 30 yards. If you are to cuff approach from the rear

[Yum Cha]

Another poor example of gun defense not the technique but why would a pistol wield er approach this closely? A pistol is as effective at 3 inches as it is from 30 yards. If you are to cuff approach from the rear

How does he keep it from going off as he pulls it to his chest is what I was wondering....

[LaRoux]

Another poor example of gun defense not the technique but why would a pistol wield er approach this closely? A pistol is as effective at 3 inches as it is from 30 yards. If you are to cuff approach from the rear

No it isn't. The accuracy of a pistol increases as the distance decreases.

[GeneChing]

Our latest ezine article became quite timely.

Read Facing an Active Shooter: The Kung Fu Basics by Robert Dreeben

[David Jamieson]

Gun!!!

Rule 1) Get down low

Rule 2) Seek an exit

^This is effective gun defense.

Everything that has you trying to disarm, or grab or distract etc etc etc is...well, it's minimally useful at best and a load of crap for the most part.

Yes indeed, try these moves with an airsoft pistol. You will get shot 99.9% of the time. If you don't believe it, try it. Try as many crazy ass moves as you like. You will get shot pretty much every single time.

Oh yeah, against a knife? You'll get cut. 99.9% of the time.

Empty hand vs a weapon? Weapon will prevail 99.9% of the time.

Has escalation of force taught us nothing and we are all dreaming we are spider man or batman. Get serious with your training people.

[GeneChing]

In active shooter scenarios, it is not recommended that you 'get down low'. It is recommended that you take cover behind something. Bullets travel downward, so most police strategies, getting down low is a last resort course of action.

As for gun disarms, I agree with you, but heed Dreeben's point on the matter "It is very difficult to pull off during one of those small windows of opportunity, and the odds of success are stacked against you as the twitch of a trigger finger takes less than a second. That being said, it's better to have one technique rather than no techniques as a last ditch effort for survival."

[stoic]

Two things:

Cover=find it.
Distance=put it between you and the shooter.

[Lucas]

rule #3

become a bionic commando. then the bullets just bounce right off.

[Old Noob]

Gun!!!

Rule 1) Get down low

Rule 2) Seek an exit

^This is effective gun defense.

Everything that has you trying to disarm, or grab or distract etc etc etc is...well, it's minimally useful at best and a load of crap for the most part.

Yes indeed, try these moves with an airsoft pistol. You will get shot 99.9% of the time. If you don't believe it, try it. Try as many crazy ass moves as you like. You will get shot pretty much every single time.

Oh yeah, against a knife? You'll get cut. 99.9% of the time.

Empty hand vs a weapon? Weapon will prevail 99.9% of the time.

Has escalation of force taught us nothing and we are all dreaming we are spider man or batman. Get serious with your training people.

In active shooter scenarios, it is not recommended that you 'get down low'. It is recommended that you take cover behind something. Bullets travel downward, so most police strategies, getting down low is a last resort course of action.

As for gun disarms, I agree with you, but heed Dreeben's point on the matter "It is very difficult to pull off during one of those small windows of opportunity, and the odds of success are stacked against you as the twitch of a trigger finger takes less than a second. That being said, it's better to have one technique rather than no techniques as a last ditch effort for survival."

You do want to get crouch low but not on-your-belly low. You want to be low enough that a shooter spraying a waist-up ton of bullets won't hit you but not so low that you get caught in the head by stuff ****zing alonge the floor. Withd granades, you want to get all the way down.

And obviously cover and evacuation in both cases.

[David Jamieson]

In active shooter scenarios, it is not recommended that you 'get down low'. It is recommended that you take cover behind something. Bullets travel downward, so most police strategies, getting down low is a last resort course of action.

As for gun disarms, I agree with you, but heed Dreeben's point on the matter "It is very difficult to pull off during one of those small windows of opportunity, and the odds of success are stacked against you as the twitch of a trigger finger takes less than a second. That being said, it's better to have one technique rather than no techniques as a last ditch effort for survival."

No can do on the nixing #1 ~G

I said get low, not belly crawl. lol
Cover is not always available.

Get low, move to the exit.

In boot camp, the rule is: In a firefight, get low, conserve ammo, move.