tendons, not muscle...

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Yeah, I know.

Just giving people a chance to argue.

After the arguing is done, then you all can post pics of scantily clad brunettes.

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"They noted that around half the throwing power comes not from muscles, but from ligaments and tendons around the shoulder, which stretch, store and then quickly release elastic energy."

[sanjuro_ronin]

"They noted that around half the throwing power comes not from muscles, but from ligaments and tendons around the shoulder, which stretch, store and then quickly release elastic energy."

Energy from where?
Produced by what?

Muscles.

You do realize that the only way to "strengthen" tendons is by "load baring activities", yes?

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Energy from where?
Produced by what?

Muscles.

You do realize that the only way to "strengthen" tendons is by "load baring activities", yes?

Yep.

Energy generated in the muscles, stored as potential energy in stretched assemblies, released in coordination with the rest of body motions.

I know all that. I lift weights too. But I'm bored, so everybody feel free to argue.

[Yum Cha]

Energy from where?
Produced by what?

Muscles.

You do realize that the only way to "strengthen" tendons is by "load baring activities", yes?

There are methods of training that can increase the amount of energy released by the tendon in proportion to the muscle, i.e., training the tendons.

I know they have successfully trained basketball and volleyball jumpers to jump higher using this method of training. For example, holding a medicine ball, then dropping down by releasing your knees, then before you stop, changing direction and frog jumping.

Or doing dips, and with your arms straight, using just the flex in your muscles, pop your hands up off the bar, then land, an repeat as long as you can.

There's a name, plyometric? or something like that, for the training.

I think it not unfamiliar to SPM or Pak Mei either.

So, yes, you train the muscles, but the way you train changes the physiology too. Like fast twitch training and slow twitch...

[Frost]

plyometric, thats not quite what they mean by plyometrics, especially the pop of the hand thing, and its normally recomended you dont do them unless you have a very good strength base 1.5-2x bodyweight squat , 1xbodyweight bench which again shows you cant really seperate the training of the two
they are also very CNS intensive and should only be used sparingly in a training cycle

[sanjuro_ronin]

There are methods of training that can increase the amount of energy released by the tendon in proportion to the muscle, i.e., training the tendons.

I know they have successfully trained basketball and volleyball jumpers to jump higher using this method of training. For example, holding a medicine ball, then dropping down by releasing your knees, then before you stop, changing direction and frog jumping.

Or doing dips, and with your arms straight, using just the flex in your muscles, pop your hands up off the bar, then land, an repeat as long as you can.

There's a name, plyometric? or something like that, for the training.

I think it not unfamiliar to SPM or Pak Mei either.

So, yes, you train the muscles, but the way you train changes the physiology too. Like fast twitch training and slow twitch...

Plyo's are load baring exercises.
And as Frost mentioned, they should be used AFTER a good base strength is developed.
I mean, you can use them before BUT you get far better results using them after.

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I used Jump Shoes to increase my vertical leap one summer 5 - 8". The theory mentioned in the literature was that it lengthened the muscle and developed fast twitch muscle fiber.

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Everybody talks muscle, but nobody wants to talk about TCMA use of elastic energy storage as a mechanism for temporal shift of energy transfer to generate higher peak power.

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"They noted that around half the throwing power comes not from muscles, but from ligaments and tendons around the shoulder, which stretch, store and then quickly release elastic energy."

Half muscle, half tendons. Shhhhhh...