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    偏(Pian) – Head Circling

    The "head circling" is commonly used in boxing to dodge a punch, and Chinese wrestling to

    - dodge a "haymaker":

    head circle 1 - YouTube

    - escape an upper collar control:

    head circle - YouTube

    - dodge a head lock:

    head circling - YouTube


    It's not quite commonly used in other TCMA styles. From all the forms that I have learned, I have not seen it exists in any of the TCMA forms that I know. Why TCMA does not emphasize on this technique enough? Your thought?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    The "head circling" is commonly used in boxing to dodge a punch, and Chinese wrestling to escape a upper collar control or to dodge a head lock.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2vr75864Uc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFvOl...ature=youtu.be

    It's not quite commonly used in other TCMA styles. From all the forms that I have learned, I have not seen it exists in any of the TCMA forms that I know. Why TCMA does not emphasize on this technique enough? Your thought?
    It is seen in our 2 person partner version of Bung Bo.

    Towards the end, you escape from waist cut takedown. You are right lead, the other guy is left lead.

    He follows immediately with left hook punch. You drop into horse stance and circle the head under and to his outside.

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    Did not know it was uncommon. I originally learned it in jujitsu as an escape from a lapel grab. In kungfu we sometimes used it as a way to duck under a round kick, but that was for training kicks, not a realistic defense against fast kicks. I like it in a grappling context.
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    It is also in our empty hand vs. broadsword, ducking under the horizontal cut.

    Also in our spear vs. staff - ducking under the horizontal staff strike and sweeping with the spear.

    Also in our 2 person Tou Fah San.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    The "head circling" is commonly used in boxing to dodge a punch, and Chinese wrestling to escape a upper collar control or to dodge a head lock.
    Related to that, if you do a finesse version of the classic Mantis Catches Cicada movement, the first hand motion can be very small and close to your head.

    The other person almost lands the punch, but the head slips to the side.

    You have some nice very close range followups from there. I use that a lot when I want to let the other guy's force work to my advantage.

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    in bareknuckle guard is tighter and head movement is smaller. boxing has big head movement because of big gloves. even hung gar has bobbing and weaving.

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    When you use head circling, you need to use one of your hand to press on your opponent's elbow joint. This way he won't be able to use elbow, back fist, or use reverse head lock (guillotine) on you.
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